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All Forum Posts by: Dionte Graves

Dionte Graves has started 8 posts and replied 62 times.

Originally posted by M Read:
I am interested in finding hard money lenders to invest a few bucks with. But, before I do, what questions do I need to ask them, what information do I need, what assurances need I get, what should I expect in return?
thanks.
Read

I'll try to take a stab at this one although I have never invested with one.

Ive noticed that most Ive seen most HMLs that have websites have some type of informational pdf document or powerpoint presentation or you tube video as an ice breaker. So that would be a start; obtaining some introductory information. If all seems well from the introduction. Then I would do my due diligence on the company. GOOGLE the name of the company and any officers or money managers for complaints/disputes. Then check the bbb and state attorney generals office for outstanding complaints.

Im sure you already know this but you must clearly define your risk tolerance and the type of projects you want to invest in. Hard money I assume is usually risky since the return is so high.

I would ask questions like;

What type of projects do they invest in?

How many properties have you had to foreclose on?

What type of active investors do you lend to? RE investment companies, individuals.

How experienced are the individuals you lend to? What is your lending criteria?

Why should you choose them over any other company?

These are a few I could come up with hope this helps...

Feel free to add!!!

Originally posted by Jeffrey K.:
Dionte,
There is a lot of risk in lending unless you do a lot of it. It is like insurance. You need to spread the risk out over a large number of people because you will win some and you will loose some.

Jeffery;

Thanks for the response. I assume that you have done your fair share of private lending. If so what did you specifically look for in the notes or the project or person or company you invested in. And how passive would you say this type of lending has been for you?

Originally posted by Chris Martin:
(Note: not an endorsement) One other option (that I no longer do, BTW) is to lend via a peer-peer network like prosper or lendingClub. These sites do some/most(?) of the due diligence and theoretically mitigate their unsecured personal loans. If they ever add the opportunity for secured lending, they will revolutionize hard money lending.

As for risk, I look at avoidance and mitigation (reduction) across: property, management, finances, and entity. Regarding "...additional ways to mitigate risk...", keep a score card on each risk category and develop your own method. I use a table with multiplicative weights to help in my SDIRA lending. For example, I prefer to lend on an already performing property since there is significantly less property risk. If any category is zero, then the (multiplicative) result is zero and an opportunity not worth pursuing. Other examples... you can ask for the property financials and verify the property income has a chance to support the proposed debt financing. If the answer is there is no way to know because we haven't bought the property yet, then maybe you need to see that the company has a history of successes before going forward. The point is to develop your own systems....

Regarding "Are there any firms or companies that offer hands off investing opportunities with a proven track record for obtaining their investors returns with a low loss record?" I'm sure there are, but like a lot of things in this business... it's a matter of finding and vetting them. Serious players should be able to readily provide a history (a resume) of their lending along with supporting links/documents to courthouse records, etc.

Another great response!

What reasons are you opposed to investing through prosper and lending club? Im very familiar with the both of them. I dont think ohio is a state that can invest on their website yet.

Post: HAPPY 4th OF JULY!

Dionte GravesPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 18

Same to you! By far my favorite holiday next to Christmas... BBQ, Fireworks, family, the Great Lakes... GOOD TIMES!!

TO EVERYONE BE SAFE!!

Thanks for the response Chris and a good one at that. Are there any additional ways to mitigate risk that you or anyone else can think of?

Are there any firms or companies that offer hands off investing opportunities with a proven track record for obtaining their investors returns with a low loss record?

Okay I am up late its 1am and I thought of a question for the BP community...

Is there a way for an individual to passively invest in real estate with minimal risk, achieve decent returns; for arguments sake 5-15% and avoid anything related to buying stocks, mutual funds etc?

I know the obvious answer is probably tax certificates and private lending. But I am fairly new to REI especially when it comes to creative financing and private lending. What other strategies are there that fit the aforementioned criteria?

The main objective of this question is to get as many responses as possible to educate those looking to passively invest in RE. Also looking to maybe come up with some suggestions for those I encounter who wont actively invest in RE themselves.

I personally want to have active investments in RE like rehabs, rentals, etc. But I also want to get a return on liquid capital that I can put to work in passive investments...

Post: 23 and just starting out

Dionte GravesPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 18
Originally posted by Mark Pandelidis:
I attended a rich dad poor dad seminar as well as another free seminar that was given in my area. Both talked quite a bit about rent to own, and it seem as though here in Canada the rent to own programs aren't very well known. All the benefits they explained outweigh the headaches of a regular land lord, and it would seem to have more advantages than wholesaling or rehabbing (less risk involved).

It would also appear that getting a house at 5% or 10% down is still possible here in Ontario, even though the government passed a new law that states investment properties must be bought with a 20% down payment.

So what's my starting point? What do I have to do to get pre-approved for a mortgage before I start looking at the houses

Hello Mark,

Welcome to BP... TO answer your question about obtaining a pre-approval....

If the strategy you intend to use requires financing find out what lenders offers programs tailored to your particular investing strategy. You can start this process by simply calling the major banks and asking the terms of their loan programs and what their qualification requirements are. If none of these lenders meet your needs then search for local community banks and credit unions. The application process is usually simple.

You stated that you are interested in rent to own programs. So you have to decide if you want to rehab properties and sell them with rent to own terms.

Or you can find sellers and negotiate favorable rent to own/ lease option terms and assign the contract to an end buyer for a fee.(Wholesaling)

In the first scenario you would would need some type of financing; hard money, private money, or conventional financing.

The second requires little if any money other than advertising expenses...

I would advise you to clearly define what strategy, more specifically what exit strategy you intend to utilize. Then based on your choice then decide whether you need a pre approval. This is vital because you don't want unnecessary inquiries on your credit profile.

Lastly you can look at most properties without a pre approval here in the states so I dont know for sure but I would assume its similar in Canada if not the same as here. You contact a local agent tell them you are looking to see potential investment properties and they typically will schedule appointments to show you properties within your parameters. Again its all going to come down to the strategy you choose...

I hope this helps! Best wishes!

Post: Did I mess this one up?

Dionte GravesPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 18

Congrats on your deals... Look forward to any new details!

Ive used vistaprint or hot cards I got 5000 postcards gloss front and back for $150....

hope this helps!

Post: taxes after short sale.

Dionte GravesPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 18
Originally posted by Jon Holdman:
OK, that sort of makes sense. Don't know why they would approve your LLC buying it and not your friends. I assume then, that there is no relationship at all between your friend, the seller or the end buyer or between the seller and end buyer.

You will only have to deal with to the extent it flows through your taxes. You will have to supply EIN (and maybe SSN) information to the title company and then you will have to account for where the money went. So, shouldn't be any taxes on your part and there will be taxes for your friend.

Not a CPA. Consult yours on the details. If you're used to doing your taxes with turbotax or some such, you probably won't do that this year.

I'd not do this for free. It sounds like you want to let your friend collect all the profits despite him not being involved (legally, I mean) with the transaction at all. Its your LLC that is granting a warranty deed to the end buyer. If there is ever any title problem, its YOU the title company will come after, not your friend. Should it turn out there is anything untoward happening, perhaps something undisclosed to you, this could cause you trouble in the future. Its entirely possible the bank is just being silly when they won't approve a sale to his LLC but will to yours. But its also possible the bank knows something you don't. Or that the bank cares about something you've been told is no big deal.

You're getting in the middle of a big deal, taking some risk, and appear to be getting nothing out of the deal. Lots of things that can go wrong here. If the C buyer fails to perform after you have completed the A-B transaction, you'll own a house I suspect you really don't want. I just can't shake the feeling there's more to this story.

Good Post Jon...

There seems to be a little too many"potential" pit falls for such a transaction without any reward for yourself...

That stated be careful and good luck with the transaction...

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