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All Forum Posts by: Christina Carey

Christina Carey has started 4 posts and replied 229 times.

Post: What's a fair rate of return to offer to another investor?

Christina Carey
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 245
  • Votes 186

@Brandon Moryl Most private lenders we deal with expect 10-12%.

In my opinion, unless you're giving a % of ownership on title - and I wouldn't if they are only a passive investor - I would go as far as saying that it would be unethical to not give your lender a first position mortgage (and record it). Look at it like this, if you got hit by a bus tomorrow, who would know that your lender has a vested interest if nothing were recorded?

Post: ISO $100,000 hard money for HUD home

Christina Carey
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 245
  • Votes 186

@Timothy Trushaw Jr if this property is a leal 5-unit, you will not be able to refinance using FHA. Their limit is 1-4 units. Anything over that is considered commercial.

Also, I don't think you'll find any hard money lender that is willing to loan on an owner-occupied property.

@Darrin Carey - can you please chime in here?

Post: Insuance on rentals

Christina Carey
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 245
  • Votes 186

That is a terrible deal for you, but I'm sure it's great for your agent.

PM me and I can send you a local guy who has programs specific for rental properties, that will likely cut your premium by a third or more - depends on square footage of the properties.

Post: Advice on Getting In (or Staying Out) of the Dayton, Ohio Market

Christina Carey
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 245
  • Votes 186

@John Tilstra Hello. My husband and I are heavily invested in the Dayton market (thanks for the plug @Mayank S.). He handles the rentals, and I manage the rehab projects.

I can tell you that the 2% rule is really more of a guideline. The farther down the alphabet you go in terms of property class, that % rule is generally higher. Because I also hold a Broker's license in Ohio, I cannot legally comment on what specific neighborhoods are good vs. bad, but my husband @Darrin Carey should be able to shed some light on that part. In the end, just like any other city, where in Dayton you choose to invest will come down to your tolerance for risk, vs. the return you want.

We can also meet with your brother-in-law and talk about the pros & cons of the areas in and around Dayton, maybe he can bring you in by phone at the same time, depending on the time difference.

My property manager (she manages about 100 units +/- for other people, and has been in the business a looong time) would be happy to talk with him/you as well - especially about the various programs for low-income tenants, the nuances of GDPM (aka Section 8), and what level of rents you can expect from various neighborhoods, whether SFR or multifamily. Feel free to send either of us a PM, and I can give you her number, and also that of another property manager (400+ units) that we trust. You can get a good overall perspective from each of them. My husband's and my contact info are in our signatures in each post. Best of luck going forward.

Post: Looking for advise on selling an overbudget flip: FSBO vs Agent

Christina Carey
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 245
  • Votes 186

If you're in the MLS, that's 90% of the battle. As long as you're priced right, it should sell (still put it on Zillow though - it matters, trust me). Good luck!

Post: Looking for advise on selling an overbudget flip: FSBO vs Agent

Christina Carey
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 245
  • Votes 186

Zillow - most buyers are on ZIllow

Also, I beleive you might be able to list as a FSBO on Realtor.com now. I've heard it's been coming, but not sure when.

Definitely don't wait too long. Not sure what the price point is, and your holding costs (property taxes, insurance, interest if funds were borrowed, etc.), but remember that every day you hold the deed is $$ out of your pocket.

Post: Buy & Hold (Dayton, OH)

Christina Carey
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 245
  • Votes 186

@Ken Faler Well hello, stranger - haven't seen you in a while. Welcome to BP!

Post: Young motivated investor

Christina Carey
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 245
  • Votes 186

@Adam Akalin Welcome to BP. Looks like you are on the opposite side of town from us. I'm a broker, my husband, @Darrin Carey, deals with the rentals, and together we do several fix & flips and the occasional wholesale deal when we have too many things going on at one time. We have a local networking group that meets in Beavercreek near Fairfield Commons Mall once a month - investors of all experience levels, as well as contractors, agents, attorneys attend. You are welcome to join us - the next one is February 8th.

Post: Getting Busted in Ohio for Wholesaling and Praticing RE without a License

Christina Carey
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 245
  • Votes 186
@Alan Williams Refer to Brian's post, which I have copied here since this is suuuuch a long thread. Despite him being in CA, he is spot-on for Ohio. He was further validated in a subsequent comment by @Account Closed who, until very recently, was an investigator for the Ohio Division of Real Estate. My husband and I have talked extensively with Nic about this, as well as many other people here in Ohio. The bottom line is, if you do not have the ability to close on it yourself (even if you are immediately reselling it), don't put it under contract.

(Regarding wholesaling in any other state, I have absolutely no idea.)

Originally posted by @Brian Gibbons:

ok folks here is legal wholesaling:

1. Always act as a principal. That means you are the buyer, seller or the person with a written, executed assignment of the purchase and sales agreement.
2. If you own the house, you can market the house. If you don’t own the house, you cannot advertise or market the house. In Ohio it’s clear – real estate can only be advertised for sale with the knowledge and consent of the owner of the real estate by either the owner or a licensed agent. Check the specifics in your state. If you have a contract to buy a house, you can market that contract or assign or sell that contract. Understand that there is a difference between marketing and selling a contract versus marketing and selling a house.
3. Trying to get paid for referring someone else to buy a house from a wholesaler is illegal.
4. Advertising that you have a house for sale that you do not actually own is illegal. You can advertise the contract.
5. Making an offer on a house that is contingent upon your finding someone to buy it from you is illegal.
6. Contracts to buy real estate that are short and simple are preferred. Contracts to buy or sell real estate that contain a number of loopholes, contingencies, options, or other escape hatches are heavily frowned upon by Dept of RE Regulators.
7. A fundamental component of being a successful real estate wholesaler is understanding the laws governing the conduct of real estate agents and the laws that govern your conduct as an unlicensed individual.


Do your homework. Take an afternoon to sit down and read your state’s laws. After you read your state’s laws, engage an attorney licensed in the states in which you are doing business and have them review your transactional paperwork. Are you compliant? 

Just because you think it is easy to understand or good language doesn’t mean it passes compliance.


Wholesaling is very much alive and can be a viable investing strategy. But like anything in investing, you need to do your homework, know the laws in your state and know what you can and cannot do. This list should point you in the right direction.

Google "Jeff Watson attorney Ohio illegal wholsaling" for videos on the matter.

Post: Just Moved to Tampa - Will Trade Beer for Knowledge!

Christina Carey
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 245
  • Votes 186

@Jack Gray There is a networking group that meets in the Tampa/St. Pete area that usually sees about 75 people every Monday evening. Some of the greatest minds in real estate. Last time we were there was about 15 months ago, and they were meeting at the Hibachi Buffet at 7610 49th St. North, Pinellas Park, FL. I'd call the restaurant first to make sure they are still meeting there, but it really is every Monday without fail.