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All Forum Posts by: Haitham Abbasi

Haitham Abbasi has started 12 posts and replied 40 times.

Post: I want to wholesale ... I dont know where to start. help!

Haitham AbbasiPosted
  • Investor
  • Glendale, AZ
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @John Bevans:

wow I didn't mean for that to get so long sorry :)

 Its absolutely fine, did you read 30 days of real estate by dean ? because that what I exactly did. I used the same exact words, and questions. said the first script to the receptionist, and ask the agent the questions. So Far NONE have responded to me, and I used Matt's script. 

Does following the book work? I think i got frustrated when I got no calls back after calling ten offices of Keller Williams, REMAX... i mean some answered, and said the exact script. yet no new messages in my email.

so my friend John, Do you suggest to keep going? what have worked for you?

Post: I want to wholesale ... I dont know where to start. help!

Haitham AbbasiPosted
  • Investor
  • Glendale, AZ
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @John Bevans:

In my experience if you want to wholesale successfully the number one skill that you need to figure out is how to find great deals (which doesn't mean it's the first but it is up there). The numbers have to work on the property either as a fix and flip or a rental (preferably both). There isn't an investor in the world who will touch a property that the numbers don't work out on. The way I make sure the numbers work is by taking the ARV (after repaired value, found by running comps on sold properties from past 90 days get a realtor on your team to do this) times .7ish (this is the amount that the average investor in your area wants off of ARV. in this case 30% but it can be as low as .9 in fast markets) minus the renovation costs (have multiple contractors give you bids if you are new) minus what you want to make and that equals your max offer. (ARV x .7) - reno - paycheck=max offer. then you offer less then that to open so you have negotiating room. If you can find deals where these numbers or rental numbers work on everything else is easy because you are providing massive value offering this to potential buyers.

For a first step IMHO would say find a realtor, then find a couple cash buyers (investors) and then start finding deals.

 John ! great points. How do I start , what should I do, Step 1? Step 2 ? I am aware of the things that you have mentioned. I need my first step because it seems like I have over whelmed myself with so much information from reading that i dont know where to start .

I appreciate your response in advance

Post: I want to wholesale ... I dont know where to start. help!

Haitham AbbasiPosted
  • Investor
  • Glendale, AZ
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Ciro Affronti:

I don't know about everyone else in the Phoenix, Arizona area on BP, but I've seen a lot of competition amongst wholesalers. I get calls from a few wholesalers every month who want to start wholesaling properties or are new to the game, but they don't seem to have a lot of great deals. My family's companies have flipped hundreds of homes, yet we seem to deal with the same small group of wholesalers that we've been dealing with for years. Not to discourage you, but I'm just maybe giving some reasons I've seen that wholesaling is slow. There just aren't huge spreads on flips these days, and although very recently we've been seeing this start to change and flipping come back, it's slow. As an example, one of the largest wholesalers in Az that we've worked with for years just told me he sent out a direct mail distribution, and had mailers going out to almost half a million residents in Phoenix. His experience and economies of scale allows him to get a lot of prime deals because he reaches out to so many. Have you tried identifying top wholesalers and trying to connect with them and help you get started? Maybe if you can prove yourself valuable to them and their business they'd be willing to help get you started.

 Hi Ciro.

I really appreciate your knowledge, defiantly hit some good points that I will keep in mind. I am clueless as how the market is doing. I thought a real estate agent can help yet some on BP have told me that i need to figure out my financing strategy. Which I dint have the cash myself. 

would it be possible to elaborate more on how to get in touch with the top wholesalers. I am willing to do whatever it takes to brush off some strategies that will help me, and I will be more than glad to assist with anything that i am able to do

Post: I want to wholesale ... I dont know where to start. help!

Haitham AbbasiPosted
  • Investor
  • Glendale, AZ
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 2

Hello Friends,

I have searched, read multiple books , googled everything about wholesaling. Great strategy. period. 

The problem : I dont know where to start. please note. I do not have the cash. And need to finance on deals. 

I have read books that say that you need to find a real estate agent first, some say that you don't. Some say get buyers list first ... (which i do not know how to get the list). Some say know the market and where to advertise to invest ( I mean WHERE ? I am new and barely know whats across the city when it come to price ranges, and neighborhoods). 

Also some say get on Craigslist and post that you buy houses cash.

What I have done so far. 

- Bought business cards 

- Submitted ads on Craigslist yet no deals come through. And those who call me are not even motivated.

- Tried calling real estate agents, and they wont return my calls because (although I don't tell them) they sense that i dont have the cash... 

- Went to the court house (Phoenix Arizona) the court does not provide a list of people that are going in pre-foreclosure.

- made reward flyers. 

I am so lost that I do not what else to do. and where to start. I wont give up. But i need a system that works. Because my system of things that I have done has gotten me nowhere. 

I appreciate your answers my friends . And I hope this question benefits others as well .

Thank you

Haitham Abbasi

Post: Finding Real estate agent

Haitham AbbasiPosted
  • Investor
  • Glendale, AZ
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Zach Sikes:

@Haitham Abbasi

If you don't have any cash, then you are not an investor just yet.  Most agents' definition of an investor is someone invesets their money in real estate.  Trading time for money would be a job or a service.  Investing means having your money work for you.  That's probably why you are having a hard time having an agent call you back.  Are you wanting to wholesale?

 ohhh. That makes some sense. Yes that is what I want to do! does that change everything ? what approach should i be taking ?

Post: Finding Real estate agent

Haitham AbbasiPosted
  • Investor
  • Glendale, AZ
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Zach Sikes:

@Haitham Abbasi

Go ahead and get your financing in place.  Do you have any cash you plan on putting into a deal?

 no i don not have the cash. do you suggest building a buyers list first ? 

Post: Finding Real estate agent

Haitham AbbasiPosted
  • Investor
  • Glendale, AZ
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Zach Sikes:

@Haitham Abbasi

Do you have financing or cash in place yet?

Try looking on realtor.com or other sites for vacant homes that look like they've been rehabbed and see if you start seeing the same agent or two over and over. 

You could also look for local investment groups. There are usually agents in the groups that work with investors, or other investors that can recommend an agent. 

Also make sure they aren't prequalifing you and you sound like a dead lead. Make sure they know you are a real investor with real money that will turn into deals for them. 

Usually when you call an office and ask for someone, then will give your info to the next on line - which is not always the best person to work with. 

 No i do not have financing in place yet. and I will not be using cash because i do not have it . 

What do you suggest to say to avoid sounding like a dead lead ?I would appreciate it .

Post: Finding Real estate agent

Haitham AbbasiPosted
  • Investor
  • Glendale, AZ
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Melissa W.:

Hello,

Yes, that is a sign to find someone else.  A good agent will get back to you within minutes.  In this business you need an agent that is motivated to help you.  The best ones are agents that are investors as well.  They know the importance that time is money.

Good luck.

Melissa

 Hi Melissa 

I appreciate the clarification. In your professional opinion what is the time span should i be giving real estate agents to send me information of listings after the first call? whats and ideal number ?

Post: Finding Real estate agent

Haitham AbbasiPosted
  • Investor
  • Glendale, AZ
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Jesse T.:

Will you be going with cash or financing for your investments?

If you will be financing, start with getting approved by a lender.  The lender - especially a mortgage broker - should be a great source of investor friendly agent referrals.

 Hi Jesse 

I do not know my strategy when it comes to financing . I am following this book that said to find a real estate agent that can help me understand my market . Because I still have no clue where to look for deals , and where are the hot spots where investors use their cash to invest! I am barely starting and j am facing this simple challenge Jesse . I appreciate you response in advance 

Post: Finding Real estate agent

Haitham AbbasiPosted
  • Investor
  • Glendale, AZ
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Rob Ohs:

Hi Haitham,

  As I still joined this forum and Its my first response in this forum. Its not a good sign that you don't get any response from whom you contact. But it is also the possibilities that they are busy in other stuff. 

So I will suggest you that you asks others too and if they response you in the mean time you can also contact with them.

Hope this will give you an idea.

Have a great day :)

-Rob

 Hi Rob , 

You are right some of them are busy and said so . I may be wrong but wouldnt that defeat the purpose of having them working with me if I want to jump in quickly on deals . They can not be busy at that time . How can I guarantee that ??  Is there any places where realtors are known to have an investing background ? 

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