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All Forum Posts by: Steve S.

Steve S. has started 294 posts and replied 637 times.

Tenants lease is up in a couple of

Months and they said they probably need about 6 months. 

1) does the lease you have them sign expense licotoy speak to the cost orndo you dealnwirh that when the time comes?

2) if they go month to month, how much premium do you charge?

3) if they do a 6 month lease (after the 1 year lease completes) how much premium do you charge?

The tenant has been a good tenant but they are planning to

Move out in January which could leave me with the house open for 4-5 months or someone signing a 12 month lease in January-ish which means the problem (less than optimal)  will co ti is for me with next tenant 

Thanks!

typically, the lease assumes the tenant would pay the full amount remaining. 

If one is able to re-lease the home to a new tenenat, does that absolve the old tenant of remaining rent on the lease they broke?

In other words, are we as landlords incentivized to re-rent it asap to get double rent?

Originally posted by @Peter M.:

I charge $1000 lease cancellation fee and make it clear they are responsible for the lease amount until a new tenant is placed. I break their lease down per diem and give them credit to the day they sign the termination form. They must move out and turn in the keys before that begins. So if the rent is $1000 and they tell me today they want to move out they first must pay me the $1000. (I have already collected June rent). I give them the form and ask them when they will be moved out by. If they stay past the 1st of the next month they would owe that month of rent just like normal but would not pay it so I make sure the termination is before the end of the month.  On that day they return the keys and move out. Every day the unit stays vacant is 33.33 they owe($1000/30 days/month) which would be deducted from the security deposit if it exceeds the current month's rent credit. 

I think I will do as @Nathan Gesner suggests and raise it to 2x monthly rent because if it takes me more than a month to place a tenant I lose money. 

 Thanks.  This is generally what I do as well with a slight twist.

1) security deposit is forfeited

2) they pay rent for the full month in which they move out.  If it happened to be the end of the month, then i have their security deposit to cover any vacancies.  If they move out on the 10th of the month, they've lost the security deposit and have paid for the full month and as soon as i can get someone in there, i either collect double rent or at least am covered for the rest of the month they moved out plus a whole other month.

I don't think i would charge them through the remainder of the lease if they moved out a few months early but may have to evolve my thinking there.  I've not had that happen before.

Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:

There is no "standard" for termination. Some states dictate a certain amount of notice and limit how much you can charge but most do not.

I require 30 days notice and a termination fee paid at the time notice is given. If they have more than six months remaining, I charge a termination fee of two months rent. If less than six months remain I charge one month rent. I do not allow payments for the termination fee. When they pay the fee, I accept their notice.

 Do you charge them a prorated date through the day of the month they leave or the full month?

For example, if they leave on the 10th (breaking the lease early), do you charge 1 month’s rent penalty and 10 days of prorated rent for the last month they are there?

Originally posted by @Scott Rogers:

did they pay June rent?  will you be able to have it re-rented July 1st?  Any damages to the property?  since they only performed 3/4 of their contract and are responsible for rent until end of contract or the property is re-rented and you now have accelerated turn over costs.  Cleaning, paint ect. they would be lucky to get out with just forfeiture of deposit IMO

 Thanks for the thoughts. I’m doing some further research online on this 

In general, what is standard operating procedure for terminating a lease early?

I've seen it where 60 days notice is required, tenant pays full amount for the month they terminate in and forfeits their deposit. 

HERE's AN EXAMPLE:

Let's say a 12 month lease terminates September 5th 2018.

Tenant offers 60 days notice on April 12th.   Tenant moves out on the 60th day (let's say that's 6.12)

Monthly rent is $1,200.  Deposit was $1,200 

What is standard for what they would owe?

As you may recall, I have some tenants moving out that cooked extensive Indian food which tends to linger a bit more due to all the amazing yummy spices.

Can you recommend a good carpet cleaner and maybe the same or separate company to give the house that new house smell?

I'm pondering doing a ozone and also putting out the coffee grounds in a bowl etc for several days.  I've got 2 weeks to make this house like new for the new tenants after the current ones move out!

Thanks everyone for the thoughts!  Good ideas i'll add to my list.

I've handled this situation a few times, but I'm looking to up my game.  

Do youhave a checklist of the standard things you do that you could share? (I have a move in checklist if anyone is interested)

Do you meet them to take return of the keys?  (or since you're goign to be changing the locks, do you not get the keys at all?)

Utilities?

CLeaning?  Do you have them handle it or do it yourself and take it out of the deposit?

What are some things you typically have their deposit pay for? (carpet cleaning?  maid service to give it an amazing once over for the next tenant?)

What are your best suggestions?  I'd love to hear them and hopefully we can call learn and get better in the process!

Originally posted by @Wayne Bodley:
I recently bought a $60 ozonator from Amazon that worked pretty well removing odors from a unit.

 How long did you run it?

And do you run it for that time period in each room?