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All Forum Posts by: Francis A.

Francis A. has started 106 posts and replied 332 times.

Originally posted by @Anthony Gayden:

 All I am saying is that this is a non-crisis. If things are so awful for the lower income person who lives in LA, SF, or NYC who has to pay 50%+ of their income toward rent, why not move to somewhere like Phoenix, Houston, Atlanta, or Dallas which all have strong economies, and you can still rent a place for $700 a month? Based on the growth of these cities, that is exactly what is happening. 

Anthony - I know you are well intentioned  but "lower income" and "moving" to towns like "Phoenix, Houston, Atlanta or Dallas" encompasses a whole LOT of factors (Economic/social etc etc) that don't translate easily to uprooting from their existing place and moving to  as you put it.   What's actually happening here is that "lower income" residents are moving to places like Victorville, Barstow, the inland empire and in some cases Las Vegas. These are closer and keep the financial/relocation hell of moving to a relative minimum as opposed to venturing further out. To keep this short, I'll add that in a lot of cases, the problems that keep them "lower income" aren't banished with these moves.

For what it's worth, these articles keep coming at us:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-21/...

Post: Los Angeles eviction

Francis A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 352
  • Votes 142

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Good luck!

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Post: Finding your "Farm Area"

Francis A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 352
  • Votes 142

@Aaron Mazzrillo

Aaron is totally right. Honestly, when I hear people say LA is too expensive, I generally don't weigh in because I'm too busy trying to do my own thing (now that I've seen the light) HA!!  This is why Biggerpockets is so great! (SHOUT OUT TO BIGGER POCKEEEETS)!! HA!

Biggerpockets encourages me to share. My instinct is, this is a competitive life why should I step in to help someone who has already made up his or her own mind etc etc. Time is precious. But that's not a good mindset to have ALL the time. Right? :-)

Point is, I was in your position once before. In my case I was forced NOT to listen to the naysayers because I HAD to make a move away from renting to buying and buying an over priced SFR and footing the mortgage bill was a non starter for me. I like to do other things other than pay massive bills. Besides, my apartment was down the street from the office. World class grocery stores, famous chef's restaurants nearby etc. Why should I have given them up? We'll have you seen the Whole Foods store that is opening downtown? Have you been to some of the fantastic restaurants downtown LA? Insane. Forget your parents (so to speak) but downtown LA is not your older cousin's downtown any more. But that's a whole other topic.

Addressing your point of bad areas near USC. You're going to find iffy pockets everywhere. I've now lived in two of the top three cities in the US and it's the same in both places. I'm sure it's the same almost everywhere. You'll find patches of iffy spots but you have to mix that in with your goals, saute the ingredients and come out with a solution that will put YOU where you want to be in 5, 10, 20 years. You are looking to be in the fix and flip game so you have to think accordingly to what would probably work for you. Besides you won't be living there unless you change your mind after doing such a fantastic job fixing a duplex. I'm assuming making some cha ching when you sell your first flip is probably at the top of your list. Followed by "don't let the construction people swindle me". This might mean being able to get to your construction site quickly from Signal Hill. And on and on and on. You will make mistakes. All you can do is try to minimize them. 

I moved from the west side to live 12 minutes away from USC in a duplex. I lived on the west side for years. I was 12 minutes from the Santa Monica pier and 18 minutes from Venice Beach. You know the drill, nice houses, parks, beautiful people, Santa Monica mountains, sweet rides to oogle at if that's your thing, Frank Gehry's offices right down the street and more and more!  Heck some office buildings in my former neighborhood have more electric car charging stations than most cities have installed right now. The world is slowly moving towards electric cars. Thank you Tesla! 

To put it bluntly, when I move out into another place, my mortgage will be covered plus a couple hundred bucks a month. Long story I won't get into it except to say that the duplex was rehabbed by a fix and flipper. Music to your ears I assume. Demand for rental units is very strong in LA. I've posted quite a few articles about this in the past. A fix and flippers can be a buy and hold person's best friend. 

I could go on but I'll stop. All this is to say that keep and OPEN mind. At the end of the day it's about you and not what others are saying about this (or that) place is too expensive. You're an engineer. Engineers come up with creative solutions every day. I'm sure you had to do case studies in school. I know I did. However, the research for case studies take work. Fix and flipping (and RE investing in general) is no different. You'll have to drive around and do the due dliigence. Call up the USC security office. Talk to them like I did. They'll clue you in some. And then you use your smarts and start building a picture of the who, what, when, where, why of it all! It's doable. Heck, you might end up teaching US what it's all about when it's all said and done. :-)

Good luck, make it happen!!

Post: Finding your "Farm Area"

Francis A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 352
  • Votes 142

Case in point. This address is all if 1.4 miles from USC (University of Spoiled [rich] Children. Hint, hint you do the math. 

3741 S ST ANDREWS PL LOS ANGELES, CA 90018

The fix and flip game gives me cause for pause however, this is going for $237,900.00 which is "a little" over your stated price range. I wouldn't be surprised if it sold for less than $200k. This area is part of my "hunting" ground.  Folks like myself who prefer buy and hold would certainly take a strong interest if houses like this were fixed and ready to "flip". Furthermore, this area is a strong rental market (but then generally, where in LA isn't?). This is all to say that yes the "average" prices may be going for 500k but you have if you can actually "drive for dollars" through some of these neighborhoods and cast a creative/unorthodox eye in terms of what you're trying to do, there are/can be some potential lucrative solutions to be found - within your budget. 

Post: Finding your "Farm Area"

Francis A.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 352
  • Votes 142

@Serena Halterman What made you decide against LA from the jump? Was it your research or hearsay? If you're wanting to fix and flip as opposed to fix and hold,... LA is closer to you than the the areas you mentioned, if it's at all an option, you shouldn't just dismiss it out right, unless of course your research says otherwise which in that case I'll bow out - stage right!  Just saying... ;-)

@Kyle Atans

I love your point about assumption.

This issue of “assumption” was the same question posed to me by my better half (bless her heart)!  My argument: calculated risk is part of any endeavor, and so long as the investor has done their due diligence and so long as we have done everything to make sure we don’t take a bath that would drown us -- we (us) needed to take the next steps. Needless to say, that wasn’t good enough.

You make money when you buy. YES. It’s true. Finding and targeting a suitable property within “budget” should be of paramount importance. Of course! But BEFORE the purchase, whatever assumptions that exist must be somehow proofed (by existing or non existing methods) to see if these may indeed be facts masquerading as “assumptions” or vice versa. And oftentimes, as I’ve found out there is no ONE formula for deducing these assumptions. Now mind you, depending on what area of real estate you may be working in, “assumptions” can be a few variables to hundreds of them. I should also say that because of the swirling conditions (economic and social) that surround real estate 24/7, today’s fact could well become tomorrow’s assumption.

I may be crazy but here goes.

Re: THE assumption that either “sinks or swims” the ship. Can you keep this property filled without taking a bath? As I mentioned in my earlier post different geographic areas within my city are subject to different subtle forces that essentially attract or repel QUALIFIED potential target renters. Move a mile out of said target area and the forces (rent-ability that should sustain your particular target purchase) dissipates.

I spent weeks trying to get a handle on the question of “how does one make sure that THIS PARTICULAR potential purchase doesn’t become an albatross that sinks the proverbial ship”? In my case the answer was quite simple. The highly motivated seller allowed me to post a “Coming soon/Subject to…” ad to gauge interest in my target area. Without giving away too much of what is an ongoing process of discovery, this gave me greater clarity  - could I keep the property filled at the right price that enabled the investment to pay for itself?

I realize this is “unorthodox” but it worked for me this one time. No two situations are alike as you know. The pressure of trying NOT to get the “assumptions” wrong is what spurred this solution. 

Either way for my sanity and most importantly, motivation, I have to believe that there are certain conditions that are almost unique to a cosmopolitan city like the City of Angels. Will these conditions stay the same? It’s my job to know even when I don’t know. Ha.

Perilous? Possibly. Exciting? Yes.

And as for the bubble….? That’s another discussion in and of itself. ;-)

And as for throwing away money? That's not an option.

I hope this sheds a little light on this band aid filled journey through RE…

@Gene Hacker

RE: Stagnating incomes. 

This is what makes this all so fascinating, interesting and challenging if of course, one accepts "the mission"... next to impossible (as some may say) ;-)

For what it's worth, this is what I think about all this. 

The thing is, I believe there are pockets in and around this city and (other cities, I'm sure) where maybe because of a business or social service enterprise etc rents in these pockets can "defy" or thrive in spite of "stagnated incomes" that you pointed out. And in each situation, these pockets have to be approached on a case by case basis and so the investor has to formulate a unique plan of attack that is part common sense and part what the target area is "saying" to the investor. Yes, the investor has to be able to "read" these pockets and call on whatever vision or wits or experience.... to decide whether to move on a property in that pocket or not.

This process of deduction is a hugely creative endeavor - as in to see what other's may not or can't see. I also submit that it's every bit as creative or even more creative than the number crunching that follows after one identifies a possible target. Numbers are crunchable whether in high rent or low rent neighborhoods. What can't be crunched is reading the tea leaves to see if the environment (unique businesses to support rentals etc) moving forward offers the sustainability that a investor needs to see returns off said investments. 

I hope that made sense.

Say it ain't so Jon!

Good for you and like Tom Bodett says "We'll leave a light on for ya"! God's speed.