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All Forum Posts by: Arn Cenedella

Arn Cenedella has started 28 posts and replied 723 times.

Post: Huntsville AL property manager

Arn Cenedella
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  • Greenville, SC
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@Ruth Blue

Thank you!

Post: First Small Multi Family... Help please!

Arn Cenedella
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  • Greenville, SC
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@Jake Denning

While I appreciate your concern for the tenant, I would not approach the tenants.

It's not really your place.

I learned a long time ago not to insert myself in someone else's business, it never ends well.

Just my opinion.

Post: Huntsville AL property manager

Arn Cenedella
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  • Greenville, SC
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I am in the process of buying a small multi-family property near downtown Huntsville AL and I am looking for property manager recommendations.

Thank you!

Arn

Post: First Small Multi Family... Help please!

Arn Cenedella
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@Jake Denning

I think you should walk away from this deal.

Why buy a headache on your first investment?

Even if your estimates are accurate, property still won't even meet the 1% rule.

It would be one thing if after all the work, rent was 1.25% to 1.5% of the total investment.

Then it might be worth the risk.

The other issue is the area does not sound "ripe" for future increases.

Is it in an area in the path of progress? In an area that is gentrifying? In an area where "hipsters" and your professionals are moving in?

I have several small multi properties that did not meet the 1% rule off the get go.

But they are in excellent areas where values and rents are increasing.....they are in areas that have a "vibe" to them - places people want to live. In these cases, I sacrifice so,e cash flow in the beginning for excellent long term prospects.

I don't know Houston at all but based on your description, I don't think this property is in a go to area.

I would pass.

Post: First Investment mistake

Arn Cenedella
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@Victor Jernigan

Oh, please......

Post: First Investment mistake

Arn Cenedella
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@Seth Atwell

Given you only have about 8 months left......until you move in.

I would tell the lender you are moving in now, put utility service in your name, and then rent on the "down low" to a "room mate".

I believe it highly unlikely the lender will take any legal action as long as you make the payments. If they do, you can adjust your game plan accordingly.

I am intrigued to know how the lender found out you were trying to rent the property in the first place?

I would look at your loan docs too, many owner occupant loans have a doc that states you intend to occupy property as your primary residence within 12 months.....if it does, that may give you some additional wiggle room....

Good luck.....

Post: Why are so many new investors looking for out-of-state properties

Arn Cenedella
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@Jonathan Greene

One size does not fit all.

1. Don't invest your entire nest egg first time out of the gate whether local or out of state.

Allocate a percentage of your nest egg for your first real estate investment.

Real estate investment is not for everyone.

So before pushing all your chips in, test the waters.

2. It's a long term investment. Slow and steady wins the race!

If you expect a couple houses or a 2 to 4 unit building to generate of appreciable amount of actual spendable cash, you will be disappointed. I have been investing in RE for over 40 years - primarily SFRs. During my working career as a broker, I focused more on capital appreciation than cash flow. Now that I am "retired" age 65, my focus is moving more towards cash flow but I still want long term capital growth.

3. My approach was/is as follows:

Buy solid properties in good areas.

I would put as much cash down as needed to ensure a positive cash flow.

I wanted to buy the property and then have it pay for itself no matter what.

That means having a healthy cash flow "on paper" so that when Murphy shows up, I don't have to panic and come out of pocket for expenses.

If some cases, this meant 30% down in others it was 50% down.

I know that's not sexy, it is not some slick house hack.

But it is solid, time tested and proven.

In doing so, I never had to worry about the property.

I made the investment put enough cash down to provide a solid excess to pay for the unexpected.

And then I let the market, time, mortgage paydown, and inflation do its thing.

The only way people get hurt in RE is to buy more than they can afford or buy properties speculatively with high leverage.

4. Trust the 50% rule!

When running the numbers, take gross rent, take 50% off for expenses, the remaining 50% will pay your mortgage.

You may very well do better than 50% expenses. If so, great.

But by using 50%, you will rarely be blindsided.

5. Out of state investing

If you live in a major metropolitan area, it will be hard to find affordable smaller investments - the kind people can buy with $50,000 cash.

My counsel for investing out of state is:

1. Personally visit the prospective area.

2. Research the local market and economy online before you go.

3. Subscribe online to the local newspapers.

4. Schedule meetings with 2 or 3 brokers and 2 or 3 property managers.

Sit down face to face and talk to them.

See what they say.

Determine if what they say makes sense.

Is the advice consistent or all over the map?

Use your judgment and life skills to determine who you trust.

5. Drive the neighborhoods - you can tell a lot by just looking around.

6. Talk to local non-real estate people about the location, the neighborhoods and the market. They have no axe to grind and are likely to tell you the truth. This means talk to waiters, to the bartender, to the staff at the hotel, to people you see in the park. Walk a neighborhood, talk to folks out front. I can't tell you how much great information I get this way.

7. Reach out to BP folks in that location.

I recently went to Huntsville Alabama looking for multifamily.

@caleb was a big help, working with his partner to find something.

Spent 3 days there doing all of the above.

We have a good sense of the location and are activity making offers.

Haven't got anything yet as that market is red HOT.

Good luck!

Post: [Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

Arn Cenedella
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  • Greenville, SC
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I also see $108,xxx annual expenses, where's that come from?

Post: [Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

Arn Cenedella
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  • Greenville, SC
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Where will get a 4% 30 year loan?

Best I would think would be 4.5% 20 year amortization due in 5 or 10 years.

Post: Huntsville, Alabama Multi-Family

Arn Cenedella
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@Nic Cooper

Thank you.

I will look as far west as Decatur.

I don't mind buying into a hot market. The initial numbers may not be as good but long term they will get better.

I suspect the strong demand will continue.

Strong population growth will drive rents.