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All Forum Posts by: Isaac Pyle

Isaac Pyle has started 18 posts and replied 125 times.

Post: What can a broke college student do now?

Isaac PylePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 86

@Chace Fraser That is a great idea! I would love to see that business plan! I am also curious, you called it a "co-borrower", is that different than a co-signer? 

I will have to figure out my own sort of personalized business plan. This is a great idea, thanks!

Post: What can a broke college student do now?

Isaac PylePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 86

@Kobe Xin I currently rent a room in a house just off campus. It costs me about half of what the dorms on campus cost, which is insane. I will definitely look into seller-financing, as I have only heard of that but have no idea what it is yet. I am skeptical about either PML or HML to start with, just because I know that I would likely be looking at a 203k FHA loan to start with so that I can BRRRR and house hack at the same time. We will see though, thanks for the post!

Post: What can a broke college student do now?

Isaac PylePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 86

@Daniel Haberkost I agree, I think the next step in the process is just acquiring more information about the areas / types of deals that would work, and determining the best way to go about financing. I definitely don't want to no-life it for multiple years to get started sooner, but I can definitely be getting more experience outside of school. Thanks again!

Post: What can a broke college student do now?

Isaac PylePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 86

@Jaron Walling Thanks for the advice! If I would likely start by co-signing with my parents, would my personal credit score be factored into that? Or would the bank be looking at theirs because their income would be the one being used to determine the amount we would be approved for?

Post: What can a broke college student do now?

Isaac PylePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 86

@Jake Simon This sounds like a great idea, I haven't looked into it that much but I certainly will now! And it seems to me that this strategy should work just about anywhere, as the rent per bedroom would increase as the rent for the entire house increases, so really I should be able to at least pay much cheaper rent with this strategy.. Thanks!

Post: What can a broke college student do now?

Isaac PylePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 86
Originally posted by @Daniel Haberkost:

@Isaac Pyle    "However, because I am in school, I obviously don't have enough time to make an income that would even begin to approve me for a loan on a house, especially in the area of my school (Boulder / Denver, CO)." 

In my opinion, this is the problem. I worked full time throughout the last several years of college which allowed me to buy my first house-hack before even graduating. Now that was pretty extreme and I wouldn't necessarily recommend that but you should absolutely have a part-time job at least. 

I'm glad I worked while getting my degree because college does absolutely nothing to teach you about the real world, the main reason I've had success since graduating is because I learned how to run businesses and through my jobs throughout college. 

My friends who did not work throughout school put themselves in a terrible position for graduation because they had no life experience or useful skills. I'm not sure what your degree is in but this is ESPECIALLY true if you're getting a business/liberal arts/psychology degree. Most definitely continue to read, listen to podcasts and network with experienced investors but I would find some sort of job within a business that will give you useful experience and allow you to start saving. 

 These are very valid points. I quite possibly could have a part-time job right now. I have had a summer job at a restaurant in my hometown for the past 7 years, so I guess I have always considered the summer to be the time to work and the school year the time to learn. Maybe it's really all just the time to work.. haha!

I am getting my degrees in Computer Science (possibly engineering, they are re-working the program at the moment) and in Physics. I know that I will likely not pursue a job in physics, but it fascinates me, and I know that I won't regret learning that. I am double majoring, which makes me hesitant to also try to work a job, but it would be worth looking into. Thank you for your long reply!

Post: What can a broke college student do now?

Isaac PylePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 86
Originally posted by @Jaron Walling:

@Isaac Pyle If you're not HYPED ABOUT REAL ESTATE INVESTING get more HYPED!! Colorado is still the wild west for investors and smaller cities still have opportunity. 

Maybe you can work a job during school and save for a down payment. I had a part-time job throughout college. You only need 3% for a conventional loan, owner occupied, with good credit. Are you building credit? That's an easy thing to get started on during college. Make friends with like minded people. I can't stress that enough. I waited 5 years after moving to Indianapolis before getting into investing. I watched deal after deal pass me by in my own neighborhood. 

I definitely am quite hyped! It pains me to know that it is still probably a ways down the line before I actually begin making offers and fixing up houses, because I would love to be in this process now. Colorado's market is crazy, and I think I am in a good place to have decent appreciation given enough research into the right areas. I have been building credit for about a year and a half now, but it is only in the form of one credit card. Maybe I should consider other ways of building credit? And I think I am going to find an association to join near me for investors, so that should help to make friends with like-minded people. Thanks for the reply!

Post: What can a broke college student do now?

Isaac PylePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 86
Originally posted by @Craig Curelop:

@Isaac Pyle - Always happy to help house hackers (and aspiring house hackers)! I hope you enjoy the book. You'll have to let me know what you think. 

You are right in that you won't be able to qualify unless you have a steady job. However, your parents may be able to co-sign for you if they are willing to do that? That's a way around that. 

They actually did offer to co-sign with me, but I don't know how I feel about that. Maybe I would be more confident with more information and after reading more, but I don't want to be in a position where there is any uncertainty in what I am doing, while simultaneously not being responsible for all of the consequences. It is definitely an idea worth pursuing and learning more about, though. Thanks again!

Post: What can a broke college student do now?

Isaac PylePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 86
Originally posted by @Linda S.:

@Isaac Pyle,

First- Read, read as much as you can!  The more you learn before you start, the easier it will be.

Second- Go to the local meetups, and see if you can help anyone with their rehabs and work for free.      It will give you experience, and if they can teach you how to do stuff (ie: change outlets,locks, install toilets, etc), it will help you tremendously when you get your own house.    Experience is invaluable, if you can learn how to do things yourself, it will be a huge help when you get your own!  Also, if you're working for free, the investor will likely be inclined to help you and share contacts!

This is a great idea, thanks Linda! I do have a limited amount of experience with construction, but it would be a good move to begin new projects again, and use that to network!

Post: What can a broke college student do now?

Isaac PylePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Louisville, KY
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 86
Originally posted by @Craig Curelop:

@Isaac Pyle - The first thing you need to do is educate yourself. I recommend reading the BiggerPockets books, listening to the podcast, watching the webinars, and continue to be active in the forums. 

While you are educating yourself, pinch your pennies and start saving! In the greater Denver area you will likely need at least $20,000 to comfortably get into your first house hack. First step is always to save and educate.

If you hit your $20,000 mark before you graduate, there is NO REASON why you couldn't get started early. Maybe try to find a place in Longmont, Lafayette, Eerie, Superior, or one of the other towns outside of Boulder to get your first house hack. 

Craig- first I have to say, thanks for reading / posting! I actually just ordered your book on house-hacking, so I was surprised to see you post here! I also came up with a starting number of about $20k give or take, but I think that the main issue is that I wouldn't be approved for a loan without a stable, decent paying income. Do you know of a way to start house-hacking without this? I know that I could claim some of the rent from the home as income to increase my approval amount, but that's not going to get me anywhere close to what houses in these areas cost.