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All Forum Posts by: Jorge Borjas

Jorge Borjas has started 19 posts and replied 139 times.

Post: Any opinions about vestright, Cody Bjugan’s 15-18k course?

Jorge BorjasPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dallas, GA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 39
Quote from @John Crimmins:
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Maybe I'm biased because I know Cody personally and am a student at VestRight.  Take that for what you will. 

I'll address the questions I see here.

Cody never says this is easy and requires very little work. It's the opposite. He says he doesn't want anyone who isn't committed and persistent and patient. 

However, most of the work involved involves searching for off-market raw land with development potential, finding the owner and seeing if they're willing to sell.  This can easily be done in 10 hours a week.  

Once you get a piece of property under contract, then you're outsourcing all of the entitlement work to experts and basically managing that part.  

With this model there's no need to do dozens of deals at a time, in fact, one deal a month can literally be worth 7 figures.  Spending 10 hours a week shepherding that is time well spent. 

In many cases, but definitely not all, students partner with Cody's development company to handle the entitlements and the exits to homebuilders for a profit share which can be mid-six figures for simply bird dirt-dogging the deal.  In fact, here's a video of Cody cutting a $600,000 check to a VestRight student who bird dogged a deal for him. 

@Chris Seveney is normally correct here in that "most" people making 6-7 figures are simply selling courses.  In the video above, Cody made more money on this deal with a student than VestRight has made in its history teaching this to students.  (Cody told me this directly)

@Scott E. LOL at your quote "You shouldn't pay ANYBODY this much money for their experience. There is no way that he or anybody will give you $18,000 worth of value."  

You are an online real estate investing mentor yourself. You're telling me that with your success, nobody should ever pay you to help shortcut their experience?  You said "There is no way that he or anybody will give you $18,000 worth of value."  That's really interesting and as a mentor you might want to reexamine that belief.  None of your mentees have ever made more than 18,000 with your advice?  

Also, Cody isn't a Youtuber, for 20 years he's been doing land deals. In fact, you should reach out to him and have him on your youtube channel if you're skeptical. He lives in Scottsdale as well. Hit him up with that request and tell him Brad sent you. I think you'll be surprised at how different what he does is compared to traditional REI.



 Hey Brad, just wanted to thank you for your response here. I'd love to learn more about your experience within the program. Have you seen success yet?


going to be tough sledding right now with many builder developers taking a year or more off .. this can be done I have done it over the years. but its NOT EASY .. land sellers are going to want to know you have money to close on the deals before they let you tie them up.. Generally speaking so this is not like wholesaling houses. which sellers will let wholesalers tie up a property with 50 bucks or 500 bucks.. the deals i buy I have to put up 100k in cash to start the process

 How do students of Cody's provide proof of funds beforehand then? Are they showing the developer's bank account? Lol


developers normally can tie up dirt based on reputation in the area.. and like I said substantial non refundable EM in the 6 figure range.. I know Cody he used to live in Portland and I had looked at a few deals he had put together.. He for sure knows the development business.. selling this to the mass's and or those with no experience and very little capital   well you know    sometimes I wonder if I should start selling my how too for 10 to 15k.. I had another client call me and he paid 20k for basically nothing.. But I will say that Cody's stuff I am sure is accurate and its how you would go about tying up dirt and who to work with etc etc.. the issue is they are making it sound like 10 hours a week will make you millions..  then we have to look at logic and reality.  Builder developers are not dump and they have their own Land Ack guys who do nothing but scour for deals and they are employees..

Jay, I ended up buying the course from Cody, learning a TON, and am working on finding that first deal. Re-reading your replies helped me learn a lot as well, I appreciate the time you take to post here and help people. What a great guy.

I wanted to ask - you said many developers are taking a year off now? Why is that? 

Hope I get the chance to buy you a beer or coffee some time my friend. Cheers!

 I actually never took the course. 

Post: Any opinions about vestright, Cody Bjugan’s 15-18k course?

Jorge BorjasPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dallas, GA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 39
Quote from @Craig Calhoun:

I'm laughing as I read the various opinions on this Vestright topic.  I understand the skepticism and the concerns expressed.  It is easy to poke holes at something that you don't understand and in some ways may be over-hyped and has a high dollar entry value.  My wife and I purchased the Vestright program with no real estate background over 3 years ago. We took a deep dive and had success.  It wasn't easy, cheap, or without sleepless nights.  To date, our combined projects have yielded 320 preliminary plat approved lots across 101 total acres in three different counties and have generated a nice healthy return.  Real estate development is a niche market with 1,000 things that can go wrong, but I will vouch for Cody Bjugan and the value of the Vestright training.  It is not a course taught by someone with 5-10 years experience, rather over 20 years and still counting.  If the niche were an easy one, everybody would be doing it. 


 Can you share where is a good place to start in Cody's program? I'm looking to learn to generate more land leads. Thanks in advance.

Post: Investors from California looking to invest in Atlanta, Georgia

Jorge BorjasPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dallas, GA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 39

Hi Fellow Investors, I'm looking for investors/partners from California that are looking to invest in Atlanta, Georgia. I am marketing for SFR in the sought after Cobb County and have found several fantastic deals that I've flipped myself and wholesaled to other investors. I'd like to partner with investors from California that are interested in investing in Atlanta.

Post: Looking for a GC in or around Rome, GA

Jorge BorjasPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dallas, GA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 39

@Chris Brown Hey Chris, I'm an investor in the Cobb area. I'd like to connect with you and see if you can help us with future rehabs.

Post: Wholesale investors in Georgia

Jorge BorjasPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dallas, GA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 39

What have you done so far? How are you marketing for deals?

Post: TLO Skip trace service. Has anyone tried it?

Jorge BorjasPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dallas, GA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 39

@Sage White Can you tell me more about this freelancer that did skip tracing for you? I'm interested in working with you or paying you or your freelancer. Sent you a PM.

Post: TLO Skip trace service. Has anyone tried it?

Jorge BorjasPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dallas, GA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 39

@Anthony Aguillard Have you found that beenverified.com works well for skip tracing? is it better and more accurate than spokeo?

Post: TLO Skip trace service. Has anyone tried it?

Jorge BorjasPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dallas, GA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 39

@Brian Lenz How do you recommend we got about setting up an account with them? I've not heard back from them and I hear they don't like investors skip tracing people to buy their houses. What is your experience and how did you go about requesting service from them so they approve you?

Post: TLO Skip trace service. Has anyone tried it?

Jorge BorjasPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dallas, GA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 39

@Andriy Boychuk I'd like to get a TLO account, but I hear they don't give service to RE investors. I've contacted them twice through email, but have not received responses from them. How do you recommend I go about it so TLOxp considers my request for service? Thanks!

Post: Which is a better skip tracing company

Jorge BorjasPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dallas, GA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 39

@Ed Tamayo I use Spokeo, but most of the numbers and emails given are not good working numbers. I hear find the seller is expensive though. Do you do a lot of skip tracing? Why aren't you happy with Locator Plus? Have you gotten good leads/deals from any of these skip tracing services?

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