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All Forum Posts by: Jeff Greenberg

Jeff Greenberg has started 75 posts and replied 1948 times.

Post: Raising money - Are non-accredited investors an option?

Jeff Greenberg
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  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Camarillo, CA
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" First you have to have a "casual acquaintance " with them. Invite them out to lunch and find out what their hobbies are. Don't discuss syndication on the first get together. Certainly don't mail to them if you don't already have a relationship built up. Friends, family, school chums, church, etc all are okay to approach for a Join Venture or a syndication. The key difference is people you "know" vs people you "don't know". Get to know them, they will be more likely to participate anyway once they know who you are and what you do."

@mike 

@Account Closed I did want to voice my differing opinion on your comments.  You need to have a significant relationship with everyone you allow into your 506b offering.  The relationship needs to be such that you as a sponsor, can make a judgement that the deal is appropriate for this investor. Even with friends and family you should be comfortable with that judgement.  We also keep our investors below 10%of their networth on any one deal.  This is for everyones protection.

Post: Distressed 17 Unit in Cleveland Ohio

Jeff Greenberg
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  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Camarillo, CA
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A friend has a distressed 17 unit property in Cleveland Near Lakeshore. 3 of the 17 are occupied.  The owner is very motivated.  May be interested in a partner to help them turn it around.  Contact me and I will provide her info.

Post: Been sued? Please share.

Jeff Greenberg
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  • Camarillo, CA
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@Mary Browder Asset protection wouldn't come into play until later down the road, if it got that far.  The missing clause is the only thing that I see that could have saved the legal expenses at this point.

Post: Been sued? Please share.

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  • Camarillo, CA
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It doesn't sound like anyone has had a lawsuit as exciting as the one that I am in the middle of.  In this case, insurance was useless, but there was one very important lesson learned.  

So the LLC that owns one of the property's that I control, along with my current PM, was named in a lawsuit. It seems that a guest of one of the tenants was shot while attending a party. Hmm, I had not heard of any shootings while we controlled the property, so I looked at the occurrence date. The date was prior to our ownership, so I requested that we are taken off as a named defendant. I received no response until I received another document with more information and a questionnaire. It seems that it is being inferred that by buying the property, not only did I buy the asset, but also the liability. Here is a good reason why to not to buy an entity to avoid increased taxes due to the property sale, or other advantages. Well, we had not bought the entity and therefore should have no liability for the previous owner's liabilities.

So I contacted our insurance carrier to see if they would write a letter to get us off the defendant list.  The only letter I received back from the insurance, was one that stated that they were not the carrier at the time of the incident and therefore would not defend us.

So onto a 5k retainer to get a lawyer to write a letter stating that we had no liability in this case and to be taken off the suit.  We are still waiting on the response.  In the meantime, I did answer the questions on the interrogatory. I will let you know what the results are as they come in.

I do want to add some flavor to this story and fill in the premise of the lawsuit.  It seems a party guest was shot in the back and had $12,000 worth of medical bills.  That number is correct.  For that cost, she must have received a bandaid and an aspirin. The suit goes on to claim that the owner was negligent in protecting the guest and warning them of the possibility of something of this nature occurring.  They claim that the owners should have been aware of the "likelihood of an occurrence" of this type and should have protected the guest and warned them of the possibility of another occurrence.

Now, why should the owners have thought to protect the guest form this incidence, and had warned her?

Wait for it

Wait for it

Wait for it

Wait for it

Because, 7 years prior to this incident, there was a similar incidence on the property.

I told my lawyer, that if they do not take us off the suit, we will countersue for our expenses.  They say, if you are in RE and you have not been sued yet, you will be.  Just make sure that you are covered.  So the lesson learned is to make sure in every transaction, I make sure that there is a clause that the seller will indemnify and defend us for any case coming from an incident that was prior to our ownership.  This clause is to survive the closing.

Post: Good way to find partners in Los Angeles?

Jeff Greenberg
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  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Camarillo, CA
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got it thanks

Post: Good way to find partners in Los Angeles?

Jeff Greenberg
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  • Camarillo, CA
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@Jeffrey Almonte   do you have info on the new MF meetup?

Post: Insurance Costs for Multi-Family - How to predict costs

Jeff Greenberg
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  • Camarillo, CA
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IM me for info.

Post: Commercial RE Transaction Lawyer in Kentucky

Jeff Greenberg
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  • Camarillo, CA
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@Jason Yarusi @Account Closed  Thank you for those referrals.

Post: Strategy/portfolio: Active vs passive (local and non local)

Jeff Greenberg
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  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Camarillo, CA
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You can also get into a very passive investment, such as a syndication.  Of course, you do give up control.  There are many options as a passive investor.  The main issue for most new investors is finding the funds to invest, and finding someone they trust to invest with.

Get yourself educated first.

Post: Have you paid for a coach? Thinking about Michael Blank

Jeff Greenberg
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  • Camarillo, CA
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There are many of us out here that have paid for a coach/mentor, but it is hard to say what is best for you.  Though my attendance at many seminars I have seen thousands of people come and go,  Many of them deeper in debt than before.  

Don't expect the 15k program to bring about a miracle, that needs to come from within you first.  If this business was as easy as many of the guru's say it is, everyone would be doing it.  Do your homework, read books, listen to the multitude of podcasts out there.  Find someone out there that is doing what you want to do and find out how you can help them.  We all have a shortage of time. 

"The Gull sees farthest, that flies highest"  Jonathan Livingston Seagull.  Prepare to learn by educating yourself as much as you can.