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All Forum Posts by: Lauren Sanford

Lauren Sanford has started 0 posts and replied 114 times.

Quote from @Melinda Eilts:

For those exploring note investing — how do you evaluate yield versus discount when analyzing a deal?

I've been reviewing some notes where the discount really changes the ROI, even more than the face rate.

Curious to hear how other investors weigh those two when deciding to buy.

We just tagged you on a post about this.  Interest and Term changes a lot. So if the term is shorter and/or the rate is higher the discount is less.  Plus if the collateral has things such as borrower paying servicing fees, late fees, default rates etc.  We will try and tag you on other post if it helps, just send us a message. 
Quote from @Melinda Eilts:

With interest rates shifting and more lenders selling paper, it feels like note deals might increase.

What’s your take — are you seeing more opportunities in the secondary market this year?


 Did you see the conversation we had on this topic on our last show?  Todays rates are not changing much yet.  And as we also discussed the private lenders are mostly making a lot of mistakes. 

Quote from @Elealeh Fulmaran:

I’ve definitely noticed the growing interest too. I think a lot of investors are drawn to notes because they offer predictable cash flow without the headaches of property management. Flexibility and lower maintenance are huge pluses, especially in today’s market. I’m curious to see how creative financing and partials might play a role in the next few years—seems like those who structure deals smartly are really benefiting.

Unfortunately we see a lot of those who are structuring deals going south in the next few years.  This is due to poor origination and having limited exit opportunities.  We try our best to teach them however as an experienced and active note buyer we see a ton of paper and most of it is not something anyone can buy or if they can it is written in a way where the discount is too big for the person who structured it.  Missing some of the key points

Quote from @Ken M.:
Quote from @Lauren Sanford:
Quote from @Ken M.:

Did you know that if you buy a $400,000 property . . .

In a typically bank financing scenario you put down 20% or $80,000 and finance $320,000 for 30 years the Principal and Interest at 7% is $2,129 and over 30 years you pay $766,428 (the bank loves you)

BUT

if you take over a loan using a Wrap (Wrap To, it takes about $15,000 in costs) and take over the existing mortgage at 2.5% that was taken out 2 years ago your payment Principal and Interest is $1,264 ($865 a month less) and over the remaining 28 years pay $447,894 (you get to keep the difference)

That's a savings of $318,534 Three times a Year! For 5 years and you are RICH!

Who doesn’t want to do that!

Retire Early and move from CA to FL Uhaul will love you ;-)

When you are new, looking for lenders & considering Fix & Flip, BRRRR, or rental, as a buyer, I’d ask the owner/seller to be one of my private lenders with creative financing. This works in Southern California (CA), AZ, WA, and TX.

If done correctly it makes a ton of sense.  As a note buyer we have seen 100s of these wrap notes where they did a lot of things wrong.  Disclosures, underwriting, interest only, non-dodd-frank etc.. Then they also are not in a position to pay if the borrower defaults to ensure the underlying debt stays current.  And if you incorrectly write the note, you could be hold to pay back the borrower all that they paid(including interest).
And be sued. :-(
That's why we encourage being trained, which co-incidentally, we train on Creative Finance.
Now, when you buy notes, what are you looking for?


We are looking for a bunch of items, (we have 14 on our helper guide).  So it maybe best to get in contact with us privately and we can go over it.  With our 15 years we see a lot of items that hurts the deal.  Including Low Rates and Long terms.
Quote from @Ken M.:

Did you know that if you buy a $400,000 property . . .

In a typically bank financing scenario you put down 20% or $80,000 and finance $320,000 for 30 years the Principal and Interest at 7% is $2,129 and over 30 years you pay $766,428 (the bank loves you)

BUT

if you take over a loan using a Wrap (Wrap To, it takes about $15,000 in costs) and take over the existing mortgage at 2.5% that was taken out 2 years ago your payment Principal and Interest is $1,264 ($865 a month less) and over the remaining 28 years pay $447,894 (you get to keep the difference)

That's a savings of $318,534 Three times a Year! For 5 years and you are RICH!

Who doesn’t want to do that!

Retire Early and move from CA to FL Uhaul will love you ;-)

When you are new, looking for lenders & considering Fix & Flip, BRRRR, or rental, as a buyer, I’d ask the owner/seller to be one of my private lenders with creative financing. This works in Southern California (CA), AZ, WA, and TX.

If done correctly it makes a ton of sense.  As a note buyer we have seen 100s of these wrap notes where they did a lot of things wrong.  Disclosures, underwriting, interest only, non-dodd-frank etc.. Then they also are not in a position to pay if the borrower defaults to ensure the underlying debt stays current.  And if you incorrectly write the note, you could be hold to pay back the borrower all that they paid(including interest).
Quote from @Melinda Eilts:

It feels like note investing is gaining more attention recently.
Maybe it’s because of the lower maintenance, steady income, or flexibility.

If you’ve been in the space for a while — what’s driving the shift, in your opinion?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on where this market is heading.

I believe you are newer in the space, and when you start focusing on something you often see more people focused on it as well. 
Quote from @Dawn Vought:

DISCOUNTED Birmingham, AL Private Mortgage Note For Sale By Owner

Over 100% Equity In House!

Principal: $44,636.66

ARV: $95,100

Interest Rate: 11%

All reasonable offers considered!

30-Year Amortization With 3-Year Balloon Note

Borrower refinanced with us in March 2025.

Has lived in the property since 2013.

4 BD 2 BTH SFR, 2-Story, not a "bungalow" type house

New 2-Story Deck installed in 2025

Additional Information:

Note originated: March 26, 2025
Original Principal Amount: $44,685.78
Current Principal Amount: $44,636.66
Interest Rate: 11%
30-Year Amortization with 3-Year Balloon Payment
PITI = $515.00/month
PI = $425.55/month
Current Escrow Balance: $328.32
Real Estate Taxes (Paid 2024): $480.61

PM To Get the Zillow link that the system would not let me post here or 

PM Any Questions or Offers

We, JKP, hope the borrower doesn't Occupy this property. If so this violates federal dodd frank law. You cant make a balloon within first 60 months. Reach out with any questions.  

Post: Pros & Cons: Owning Property vs. Owning Notes

Lauren SanfordPosted
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I am sure we answered this in your other post.  Are you asking the same question?

Post: Advice for Someone New to Note Investing?

Lauren SanfordPosted
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@Aaron Zimmerman yes jkp we have Note Podcast and our last episode was on this tax question actually.  If you have questions feel free to reach out. 

Post: Advice for Someone New to Note Investing?

Lauren SanfordPosted
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Quote from @Melinda Eilts:

I’m exploring real estate notes as a way to diversify my portfolio, but I’m still in the early stages of learning. For those who’ve been doing this for a while, what’s one tip you’d give to someone starting out?

Welcome to the note space.  We have been in the space for over 15  years.  Just know that Notes is more "Legal" than "Real Estate". We hear a lot about Note Brokers so we did an episode on our Notes Show about this a there is a ton of misconceptions.  As we tell all our followers on other platforms, if you want to get started buy a Partial.  It gets your feet wet, you get to learn a lot and the risk is reduced.  Reach out if you need anything as we have tons of content!

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