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All Forum Posts by: Jeff Warner

Jeff Warner has started 19 posts and replied 483 times.

Post: Will work for food.

Jeff WarnerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • North Central Arkansas
  • Posts 509
  • Votes 178

You never know if those guys are for real or if they're scamming people for $. I've offered food before to people like that and they did not want the food, only $. Since he took the food he may be for real but who knows.

I did watch a "bum" selling drugs on the corner right in front of me the other day. I called the police right away.

These are some strange times we're living in right now.

Jeff

Post: Full Time Job & Wholesaling

Jeff WarnerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • North Central Arkansas
  • Posts 509
  • Votes 178
Originally posted by Scott M.:
Well do you want to quit your job or trade one job for another?

Wholesaling is a job. There is no residual income from it and you only make money when you turn a deal.

Find - Sell - Buy - Close - Close and repeat over and over and over. And I can promise you as your getting started your going to wish you had a steady paycheck. It can be done but you need to bust a$$ to get it done.

At age 62 if you want a job the wholesaling is one option but do not fool yourself your trading one job for another.

This is great advice. Wholesaling (or any other form of investing) is a JOB, just one without a boss and office politics. Personally I like the challenge but I know that a lot of the guru's try and make it seem like it's easy money and anyone can do it in their spare time. That could not be further from the truth.

Besides leaving your job, what are your goals? Be realistic with your goals and learn as much as you can. Based on your goals, you may find that wholesaling is not for you. I would recommend doing a few deals start to finish before you put in your 2 weeks notice.

Jeff

Post: Full Time Job & Wholesaling

Jeff WarnerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • North Central Arkansas
  • Posts 509
  • Votes 178
Originally posted by Robert Burns:
I am extremely "burned out" with my current job that pays well but I am 62 years old and very tired of making other people rich. I want to develop a consistent RE wholesaling business to supplement my retirement. However I have found it very difficult to find the time to work on my wholesaling business while I work full time which also includes a fair amount of travel. I am impressed by many of the contributors to this forum and I am also sure my situation is not unique. I would appreciate any suggestions, actions plans, ideas on how I can effectively develop a wholesaling business while I work full time. I really, really need to quit my job, I'm on Xanax already.

Thanks in Advance,

Bob Burns

Working full time and running a business can be done but it's not easy. How are you marketing your Wholesale business? IMO, you need to get the phone ringing and have motivated sellers calling you regularly. Deals will come if you can get the MOTIVATED sellers calling you. REI is a numbers game and just like any other business you need to make that phone ring, especially if you don't have time to "drive for dollars" and find houses that other people ignore.

I'm sure other people on this forum have solved that same problem and could give you tips on time management. I would buy lists and direct mail, you can start with out of state Absentee Owners or Absentee Owners that own homes at half the median sales price for your area, etc.

Another thing, and with working full time I'm sure you value your days off but you could use that time off to go out and find deals, talk with home owners and try and get a deal. The main thing I'm curious about is how much time are you currently putting into your own business and what your doing to get that phone ringing?

Lots of people on here willing to help so ask questions and stay focused, it will happen.

BTW, I think one of the most evil things is spending all or most of your free time working a job you hate.

Jeff

Post: VERIFY your comps

Jeff WarnerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • North Central Arkansas
  • Posts 509
  • Votes 178
Originally posted by Bryan Silver:
For those of you that use BofA's website to gauge property value - shame on you! Although it is somewhat helpful, the comps, values are often wrong & not updated. Realquest was one of the most reliable databases use to determine comps, values, but it is no longer a free site. Other sites such as realestateabc, zillow, cyberhomes, eppraisal, etc will give you round-about figures, but it is best to have realtor give you recent sales according to MLS, MLX or you can contact your title company. Some title companies will give you that data for free.

How could sales history be wrong? I might be missing something here so feel free to correct me. I would never use any website to see what they consider a property to be valued at, most of the sites you mentioned use the county tax assessed value (which is not FMV). If you are getting recent sales, I don't see how they could be wrong, they certainly are incomplete as they won't be showing you ALL the sales in the time period selected but not wrong.

Are you saying that for instance if a home sold for $100k that zillow and the others will report the sale at a different price? Not all counties are the same but all the ones I work in I can verify the ACTUAL sale price and zillow, cyber homes, etc. are all accurate when it comes to the ACTUAL sale price.

If your talking about what those sites "value" a property at then I'm with you, they're values are a joke and comps never (or very rarely) support them.

Jeff

Post: VERIFY your comps

Jeff WarnerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • North Central Arkansas
  • Posts 509
  • Votes 178
Originally posted by Justin S.:
Go to a big chain title company office near you and talk with their sales rep. Ask them if they offer property profile reports. Most of them will have a service that is free for you to use as long as you throw some business their way. The profile reports will give you last 15-20 homes sold in that area. Use those for your comps. They are up to date and will tell you who the buyer/seller was so you can see which ones were REO's or bought at auction. I get my reports from Chicago Title.

I talked with Ticor Title locally and they said they can provide comps also. My guess is that those will be more accurate then a Realtor since they aren't using MLS sales only. They also said it's free so it doesn't hurt (or cost) to ask.

Jeff

Post: VERIFY your comps

Jeff WarnerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • North Central Arkansas
  • Posts 509
  • Votes 178
Originally posted by Norm Chrostowski:
My problem? REALTORS want nothing to do with you if your not buying houses from them. I'm almost tempted to go get my own license, and tell the 15 or so I've talked to, to shove their service up their A$$.

My wife is thinking about getting licensed but you have to work as an "agent" for 2 or 3 years in OR before you can become a broker. Not really my thing but she still may do it...at least then we'll have access to the MLS.

Jeff

Post: amount of fee for assigning a deal versus doing a double close on a deal.

Jeff WarnerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • North Central Arkansas
  • Posts 509
  • Votes 178
Originally posted by nationwidepi:
That's a good idea and very fair.

Jeff
Thanks Jeff, you can always vote it up if you like. :lol:

That calculation has worked for me in both small and even large commercial deals. It is fair all the way around and easy to calculate for those just getting started.

Good deal, one vote for Will.

Jeff

Post: VERIFY your comps

Jeff WarnerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • North Central Arkansas
  • Posts 509
  • Votes 178
Originally posted by Scott M.:
I seem to be a lone voice on BP about using appraisers to pull comps in areas where your not familiar - and before you close on deal even then (if an appraised value is going to be an important number - if your buying with cash and holding the value isn't all that important.

Zillow / realtor.com etc are jokes for comps - maybe to get an idea of what the home was worth a year ago use those sites :)

Realtors are not very good at it either and if your deal is contingent on financing - meaning you HAVE to know the value - spend the $25-$100 and get an appraiser to pull you the real deal comps.

I would spend $25-100 for an appraiser but out here most charge $300. Are you not doing a full appraisal to get that price? Let me know, I don't have a problem spending the money to get a solid number on a home in an unfamiliar area.

Jeff

Post: VERIFY your comps

Jeff WarnerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • North Central Arkansas
  • Posts 509
  • Votes 178

****Jeff Z - While it won't work for Grant's Pass, the Oregonian has a list of real estate sold in the past 18 months on their website for the Portland area. Incredibly helpful, although you only get the sale price, sale date, and date recorded. Still, I can quickly take that info down to the research room and find the parties involved.

Jeff****

Some counties in OR have sales online through the tax assessor, my county does not have it online yet but hopefully will. The counties that do are very detailed and you can search based on sale date, sq. footage, age of the home, type of home, etc. You can also put in map numbers (found on their site) so you can make sure all comps are near the subject property.

This feature is not available in the county for the home I'm dealing with so I've got to go other routes.

Jeff





Post: amount of fee for assigning a deal versus doing a double close on a deal.

Jeff WarnerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • North Central Arkansas
  • Posts 509
  • Votes 178
Originally posted by nationwidepi:
Also, I have found that a fair price is 10%-20% of the equity in the deal. On small and average deals, if you have $30k in equity, your minimum is $3k and max shoudl be $6k leaving the majority of the profits (80%+) to your buyer.

That's a good idea and very fair.

Jeff