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All Forum Posts by: Kimothy Bynum

Kimothy Bynum has started 21 posts and replied 126 times.

Post: Looking to retire early

Kimothy BynumPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Detroit
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Steve Vaughan:

I left my w-2 20 years ago and the good news is, your passive income doesn't have to match your old gross income.  You will have less living expenses and less taxes.

Time freedom is nice of course, but have an idea of what you want to do.  Run to something when you run from another.
 


 Nice! yea I'm starting to see that when i do leave i will have to live a less expensive lifestyle not that my lifestyle is expensive now. But i want wait until i get a good cash flow number. After i leave the property i am in now i should be getting 300-500 in cash flow. so that is a start.

Post: Looking to retire early

Kimothy BynumPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Detroit
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Eliott Elias:
Quote from @Kimothy Bynum:
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

I guess I’d be considered “retired” as well. Just quit my job after 6 months of working there and I am 25. I didn’t quit because I was rich, I quit because I wanted a lifestyle change. Something where I can be my own boss and change peoples lives. Real estate is so powerful 


 Nice, what did you end up doing for income?


Wholesaling and buying BRRRR property


I've been making my cold calls as a realtor not a wholesaler. And buying a BRRRR is the goal.

Post: Looking to retire early

Kimothy BynumPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Detroit
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Leo R.:

@Kimothy Bynum if you're house hacking a new property every year (as soon as you're eligible for a new owner occupant mortgage), then you're on your way!  ...however, a few caveats: it's one thing to house hack in a town with no appreciation, it's an entirely different thing to house hack in a town that's red hot. As they say: nobody gets wealthy off of just cashflow, they get wealthy via appreciation. 

For instance, I have a friend who has a portfolio of 5 properties (all of which he house-hacked); the total valuation is about $2.5 million...last year, his market saw 20% appreciation, meaning his net worth increased over half a million dollars in 12 months in just appreciation, and he didn't lift a finger. Even in a more normal year when appreciation is, say, 3%, his net worth would increase $75k in 12 months.  ...For comparison, he also nets about $45k/year in rent ...which is solid (and it's enough to keep him in a good position in terms of maintaining the properties), but it's nothing compared to the appreciation.  

Also, a key factor is obviously how much money you're getting from your current W2...if your W2 is paying you 3k/month, then replacing it with rental cashflow may be fairly easy...but if your W2 is paying you 10k/month, that's a steeper hill to climb...

Lastly, you mentioned that you felt it was "risky" to live off of cashflow, but in the very next sentence you ask about building (which can be a very risky endeavor!).  ...I'm wondering why you think it's "risky" to live off of cashflow?  ...I think it depends entirely on the cashflow vs. expenses; if a person has 20k/mo cashflow, and their expenses are only 3k/mo, I wouldn't personally view it as particularly "risky" for them to live off their cashflow...

On the other hand, building new construction in the midst of a rapidly changing market--now that's risky! (especially for those who don't already have significant building experience). ...there are just so many uncontrollable (and often un-knowable) things that can and do go wrong with a new build...  Obviously, experienced pros can, and do make money with new builds, but in the spectrum of safe vs. risky real estate strategies, I'd say new build is a bit more on the risky side (compared to a relatively simple strategy like house hacking, where the financial models have much fewer moving pieces)...

Good luck out there!


 Thank you for the response! I want to continue to house hack and living in the house i am now i realize for the house hack to work the best, i would need to live in a house that appreciates. So I'll definitely look for that when I move. I going to try to refinance my house to a conventional loan this week so hopefully it works out and i get the value i need from the appraiser. 

Post: Looking to retire early

Kimothy BynumPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Detroit
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Jeff Roth:

Hi Kimothy-

I love the hustle and the plan.

While I started later, the clear path for me is buying value add properties, rehabbing them (preferably lightly) and using the BRRRR strategy. Buy Rehab Rent Refinance Repeat.

I am fortunate to be within an hour's drive of a market in Michigan where I can buy properties like this and again next year with $500 monthly positive cashflow after paying a property manager to manage it.

Love the hustle. Best of luck. Happy to help!


Hey yea i want to get into BRRRR. I'm a realtor in the Michigan market and I want to know more about how to do a BRRRR. I guess just how to find contractors and manage that aspect of it? How did you get your first one?

Post: Looking to retire early

Kimothy BynumPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Detroit
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Chris Tarashuk:
Quote from @Jasper Johnson:

Hmm, I'm close to 40 and I am very new here. In fact i'm just starting out. Reading this about retiring at the age of 30+ makes me feel I'm late. 


No such thing as too late, especially at 40. If we average 80 years of life you're only halfway there. If you were able to add 1 house a year or every 2 years by the time you are 50 you can have 5-10 assets to your name! Do not let age discourage your decision to start on this journey! I am happy to chat about REI as I am quite new myself and am just getting ready for my first purchase. Reach out and lets connect!


 I agree its never to late. A lot of people have not started and more aren't even thinking the way you are thinking. 

Post: Looking to retire early

Kimothy BynumPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Detroit
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Conner Olsen:
Quote from @Kimothy Bynum:

Hey I want to retire early! Really meaning i want to leave my W2 job and not have to rely on it for income by 35 so it would be a 10 year plan. I'm currently on my first house hack and looking to do another house hack this year. Anyone out there that has "retired" in there 30's? If so how did you do it, what are some tips?

I don't mind my job but I can't see myself working here for 20 years + nor do i want to work here for 20 years +.  


 I'm not there yet, but the short answer is keep your expenses as small as possible and invest as much as possible. I am doing that by house hacking multiple properties over the next 12 years to ultimately hit that goal.


 That was my plan to continue to house hack but I need to get a property that will appreciate. Or get something that I can fix up while I live in it. That was my lesson learned while I'm house hacking. But I love that goal! I would need to get a comfortable house hack as we get further down for my wife to be okay with us continuing to house hack haha. Hey lets connect seems like we have the same mindset.

Post: Looking to retire early

Kimothy BynumPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Detroit
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

By 'retire' do you mean 1) just getting out of your W2 job? Or 2) no more work of any sort ever?

Either way I wish you the best of luck, but do you have any idea how much you need to have saved to retire at 35 and live for another 50 years?


 By retire I mean leave my W2. I think it's possible if you build a pretty decent rental portfolio. House hacking helps out a lot and just having some kind of business that brings in income as well. I see people do it and they are just like me so why can't I do it ya know. I'm just starting my job I wouldn't be able to retire for another 20-25 years. And once I retire I'm not walking away with a crazy amount of money.

Post: Looking to retire early

Kimothy BynumPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Detroit
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Jordan Moorhead:

@Kimothy Bynum just curious but what would you do if you didn't work? I wouldn't necessarily want a W2 but I need something to do personally


 I would look to build a business from home. I guess when I think of early retirement its having the option to work. I am starting the steps to getting my business going now. I also want to manage my rental properties full time and be able to put more into that. I want to get into flipping as well. These are things that I need to start while I'm working at my 9-5. And finally when I have kids hopefully next year I just want to be there and available when they need me. My current job makes good money compared to the amount of work we do but its not satisfying to me so I really look to use the income I make to fund my future plans. I just think a lot here because how slow it is and I hear people saying they have been here for 20-30 years. To stay here that long just to have a little pension and some retirement money doesn't seem worth it to me. To think I have 20-25 more years here before i can retire is wild!

Post: Looking to retire early

Kimothy BynumPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Detroit
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Diana Froster:
Quote from @Eric Mcginn:

I am 37 and plan to “retire” in the next few years. 
but having a baby and considering a second highlights the importance of health insurance so that is a concern in terms of totally leaving an hourly job, very expensive without help. 
I like my job now, I don’t dread it at least. But yea I’ll be leaving the city to go relax with my kids some day soon and do work here and there as I see fit, maybe open a food truck or a cafe, spend time with the parents and help them out with projects. 
and continue my real estate thing. 

it started with a condemned duplex and has turned into 8 LTRs and a STR.

One more killer deal and I’ll be pretty set. Even now I could raise the rent on my tenants enough to cover my living expenses, but I like my tenants, they leave me a alone and pay on time and I make good money every month. 

Anyways, I’m with you and getting pretty darn close to there, but kids aren’t cheap and neither is health insurance so there’s that too. 





This is really inspiring to read as someone who is planning to have kids in the near future! If you don't mind me asking, how much are those 8 LTRs and single STRs bringing in per year net? 


 I was thinking the same thing. Like this is the future me hopefully haha

Post: Looking to retire early

Kimothy BynumPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Detroit
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Eric Mcginn:

I am 37 and plan to “retire” in the next few years. 
but having a baby and considering a second highlights the importance of health insurance so that is a concern in terms of totally leaving an hourly job, very expensive without help. 
I like my job now, I don’t dread it at least. But yea I’ll be leaving the city to go relax with my kids some day soon and do work here and there as I see fit, maybe open a food truck or a cafe, spend time with the parents and help them out with projects. 
and continue my real estate thing. 

it started with a condemned duplex and has turned into 8 LTRs and a STR.

One more killer deal and I’ll be pretty set. Even now I could raise the rent on my tenants enough to cover my living expenses, but I like my tenants, they leave me a alone and pay on time and I make good money every month. 

Anyways, I’m with you and getting pretty darn close to there, but kids aren’t cheap and neither is health insurance so there’s that too. 





 Nice this is really good insight. So did you build your portfolio off the money you made from your job. And i guess when i say retired i mean leaving the 9-5. living off rental income may not be the smartest but I want to have the option to work and not need to work. And that another thing I don't have kids but looking to have kids next year. And I've heard health insurance is not cheap without your 9-5 job. Could we chat more?