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All Forum Posts by: Mack Lengel

Mack Lengel has started 3 posts and replied 126 times.

Post: Crashpad Lending Question (DSCR)

Mack LengelPosted
  • Smokies / Greenville, SC
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 146

Congrats on your first post BTW!

Post: Crashpad Lending Question (DSCR)

Mack LengelPosted
  • Smokies / Greenville, SC
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 146
Quote from @Kathryn C.:

My business partner and I are looking at purchasing a house to setup a Flight Attendant / Pilot Crashpad in Las Vegas. The price of a suitable property will be $425,000 - $475,000 and we can come with up to 25% down. My question is if we go for a DSCR loan, will the lender only consider the Rent Value of the property based on if a single family rented it, or will they consider the rent value for the intended purpose which is much higher? Typically rental income for a crashpad will be about 2x market rent but of course we have some operating and management expenses to cover and all that, but it still cash flows reasonably positive.

That's a great niche, bravo!
My uncle is a pilot and I know he had a crash pad with a couple of other pilots whenever they were in town.

DSCR loans are popular in the Smokies for STR cabins so I've run into them a good bit. To answer your question yes, if you have the right DSCR lender they will be looking at the project STR income and not just the market value of long-term rents.

Keep me updated on the project I'd love to hear how it goes for you :)

Post: Unfinished cabin in multiple lot sale

Mack LengelPosted
  • Smokies / Greenville, SC
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 146
Quote from @Lacie Carver:

I'm looking at putting an offer on a listing with four separate tax parcels, three of them being vacant half acre lots and the 4th with an unfinished, dry cabin.

My initial thought is to sell two of the parcels. Then use the money from one of those sales to fix up the cabin, add a well and septic, and use it as a STR.

I'm going to need financing for this. My understanding is that with this being an investment property and due to the unfinished cabin, conventional loans won't be an option.

What are some financing options? And what can I expect from those are far as rates and terms?

Thanks so much for your help and expertise!

 Sounds like the makings of a great deal... 

As @Chris Seveney mentioned it is definitely worth seeing if seller financing is a possibility. 

A construction loan to finish out the cabin could be another possibility there. I have two great lenders for construction loans if you want to explore that option. Rates around a little under 8% last I checked 

I think Lima One Capital has some programs that might also work, check them out and see. Their rates go from 8-12%

As far as your exit strategy with selling off the other two parcels you could look at doing a pre-construction package. That is something we do a lot in the Smokies, it's basically working alongside your realtor and a builder and putting everything in place for the end buyer to purchase a to-be-built home. 

If you have questions about anything I mentioned just reach out and I will be happy to dive deeper into your specific situation,

Mack

Post: Purpose built vacation rentals

Mack LengelPosted
  • Smokies / Greenville, SC
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 146
Quote from @Mitchell Maginnis:

Hi!

I recently completed a new build STR. I like the fact that I was able to design it with unique additions that none of my competition is offering, and I want to continue to rinse/repeat this process. I have a parcel that is zoned specifically for multiple units.

With that said, I paid for the entire first cabin out of pocket with cash only, and it has taken me over a year to save up that money. I will use a refinance to build my second unit, but am looking for creative financing ideas that I can implement so that I can continue to build more units faster. Any advice is appreciated. 

Hey @Mitchell Maginnis! Doing something similar to that in the Smokies with some clients. The creative bit we are working with is seller financing land and rolling that into a construction loan. If you are showing ownership of the land and you have enough equity built into the deal then you won't need to bring the 10-20% down from a construction loan. Don't know your exact situation but might be something to conisder

Post: Tiny house builders/companies

Mack LengelPosted
  • Smokies / Greenville, SC
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 146
Quote from @John Underwood:
Quote from @Mack Lengel:
Quote from @John Underwood:

I have seen some nice pre-made ones in wheels. They developed the land and just rolled a bunch of them in. I drove by and noticed quite a few cars at them so they are renting even this time of year.


 The ones in the Lake Robinson/Cunningham area?


 Close to Lake Hartwell. 


 Very cool. They are popping up everywhere then

Post: Smoky Mountain Treasure

Mack LengelPosted
  • Smokies / Greenville, SC
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 146
Quote from @Collin Hays:

I've found a massive, commercial septic tank that I am considering converting to a STR. The only challenge is installing a bathroom in it.


 That's a "crappy" idea....

Post: STR direct booking site needed

Mack LengelPosted
  • Smokies / Greenville, SC
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 146
Quote from @Ben Szafran:

My wife is growing fast with her STR property management. Airbnb is her main platform for bookings. She uses Hospitable to manage all her properties. She also receives referrals from various sources where a direct booking site would make life easier for guests, my wife and her cpa (lol). Hospitable has a "landing page" feature that can connect to Stripe payment feature but the site does not allow for any real creativity or enhanced functionality at this point.. Anyone out there have recommendations or know a web person who has worked around Hospitable? Thanks in advance.

Ben & MaryChris


 Not a direct answer but this video should also provide some important things to consider 

Quote from @Paul Wolfson:

I'm a numbers person and want my decisions to be guided by data over anecdotes.

With that said, how do you calculate if a market is oversaturated? 

I've seen one interesting approach recently where you can use AirDNA to get the 1-year growth in STR listings and compare that to the 1-year growth in STR revenue. If the amount of listings grew by 25% and the revenue in that market also grew by 25%, then that means supply is meeting demand, which in turn means that market is not oversaturated. However, that is a snapshot of only 1 year. And, it is a "rate of change" type of metric.

I'm wondering if there are other metrics people use to determine market saturation?


 Oversaturation should only be a concern if you want to compete with the rest of the average properties providing an average experience

Post: Smoky Mountains Dollywood Expansion

Mack LengelPosted
  • Smokies / Greenville, SC
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 146
Quote from @John Carbone:

came across this article tonight. This is good news for the pigeon forge area. My PF cabin does remarkably well when dollywood is open. The marketing and investment along with potentially longer calendar to operate should be great news for this area. 


https://www.chron.com/life/tra...


 I know the expansion has been in the works for a quite a while but it's good to see it gaining traction with the media

Post: Tiny house builders/companies

Mack LengelPosted
  • Smokies / Greenville, SC
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 146
Quote from @John Underwood:

I have seen some nice pre-made ones in wheels. They developed the land and just rolled a bunch of them in. I drove by and noticed quite a few cars at them so they are renting even this time of year.


 The ones in the Lake Robinson/Cunningham area?