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All Forum Posts by: Nathan Frost

Nathan Frost has started 106 posts and replied 336 times.

Post: DSCR Loans Please Explain

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Stacy Raskin:

DSCR loans are based off of down payment, credit score and either actual or market rents so it helps to supercharge an investor's real estate goals and net worth. They don't consider the borrower's income.

Here's a bit more in detail about how rates are calculated for DSCR loans:

1. Credit score- the higher the best. 780+ generally gets best pricing for investment property loans with most lenders

2. Loan to value ratio: The higher the loan to value ratio (LTV) is, pricing takes a hit. So your pricing will be higher for a 80% LTV loan than for a 60% LTV loan.

3. Are you cash flowing the property? Is your DSCR ratio greater than 1-meaning are you cash flowing. Many lenders will not do a DSCR loan unless cash flowing. If they will do a loan with less than 1, the pricing takes a hit.

4. Prepayment penalties generally range from 1-5 years and you get to decide the length of the term. The longer the term, the less of an impact on the rate.

I've included an example below to help illustrate this. So different lenders have different rates (which do vary even for DSCR loans) but these are factors they all consider.

See example below:

DSCR < 1

Principal + Interest = $1,700

Taxes = $350 Insurance = $100 Association Dues = $50

Total PITIA = $2200

Rent = $2000

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2000/2200 = 0.91

Since the DSCR is 0.91, we know the expenses are greater than the income of the property.

DSCR >1

Principal + Interest = $1,500

Taxes = $250, Insurance = $100 Association Dues = $25

Total PITIA = $1875Rent = $2300

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2300/1875 = 1.23

Lenders will typically let investors vest as an individual or an LLC.


You still have to bring 20% to the table? Does the DSCR pay down on the principle of the property?

Post: DSCR Loans Please Explain

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76

Hi, can someone explain this to me? Basically give me an example of say a $100,000 home and how this is wise to use that rents for $1200-1400. Verse other loans. Or why one would choose DSCR loan / interest only payments over equity payments.

Post: GetPrivyNow (Walkthrough / Tips)

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76

Hi, has anyone used Privy to find deals.  I have some questions and want to see if it is worth the money.

Privy or Propwire?  I use Propwire currently and it is pretty good but am tempted to get Privy.

Post: Home Equity Loan HELOC

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76

Is it smart to refinance a home equity loan to a HELOC? My HELOC lender said this..

I am reaching out regarding the title report of your home. Currently, your mortgage is recorded as a home equity. In order to proceed with this line of credit we would have to pay off and close down your current mortgage. This will happen in the state of Texas if you took any cash out at closing or rolled in any closing cost. Please advise if you would like to proceed with paying off and closing your current mortgage.

You would have to qualify for a loan amount sufficient to cover the payoff for the first mortgage. You would have a heloc with a higher loan amount with still an interest only payment for the 1st 10 yrs. Your rate would be based on prime which is currently 8% plus a margin of 2.00%

Would this be smart to do?  Seems dumb when my primary currently has a 3.1 interest rate.  However, I am trying to add 1-2 rentals to portfolio.

Post: For Sale By Owner Website - Houzeo

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Ray Hage:
Quote from @Nathan Frost:

Is Houzeo the best site to sell your house as an owner? Trying to save 3% from listing with an agent and I have many agent friends locally that have given me a CMA. Which website is usually the best and helps with the paperwork?

Houzeo
Fizber
FSBO


 If the property is in a very high demand location, you are better off with an agent mainly because there will be a lot more eyeballs on it and could go above the list price. You also can negotiate that fee down especially if it is a more expensive property. 

If it is a lower demand market and you are not in a hurry to sell, you could go the FSBO route. It sounds like you are getting some free help from friends and that is awesome! The paperwork can be tricky so you'd want to ask your agent friends to at least look it over and maybe give them a few bucks for their time and advice.


 Agree.  And I would be in no rush when the time comes.  If it doesn't sell I could rent it out or just wait.

Post: How to use HELOC to invest?

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76

Hi all, what is the best way to use a HELOC to add properties to your portfolio? Could you possibly use it as repairs for a flip? I have 10 LTRs currently but would like to get to 12 and eventually 15 so I am trying to figure out how to use it correctly and wisely.

Post: Free STR search

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76

Where can I go to search for good STR areas to buy in?

Post: For Sale By Owner Website - Houzeo

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76

Is Houzeo the best site to sell your house as an owner? Trying to save 3% from listing with an agent and I have many agent friends locally that have given me a CMA. Which website is usually the best and helps with the paperwork?

Houzeo
Fizber
FSBO

Post: Using Subject To, to Get "Free" Properties - A Quick Guideline

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Account Closed:

I often buy using Subject To to buy properties. If you choose to use this technique these are some of the Pitfalls to watch out for.

Subject To Pitfalls

1. The bank can call the loan due (due on sale cause).

2. You need money to do a "no money down" Subject To. The seller needs moving money, there are oftentimes an arrears that has to be paid on the loan, there are oftentimes HOA fees that are due, there are title costs, there are escrow costs, usually there is deferred maintenance, you have to make mortgage payments out of pocket until you get a renter in there, you have to pay utilities and taxes, and you need reserves in case it all doesn't go as planned.

3. You can really mess up the seller's credit if you miss payments and they can then sue you.

4. If the seller files bankruptcy in the future you have to prove to the court that you bought the house fairly. That means you have to hire an attorney with uncertain outcomes.

5. If there is a fire and you haven't set up your insurance properly you could be in for a big surprise and not receive a payout.

6. A common source of Subject To deals is people in distress (foreclosure) who have a pending sale date. If you promise them a "rescue" and you don't get it done before the foreclosure sale they can sue you and the local authorities can investigate you.

7. In many jurisdictions (Washington, Oregon, California & others) it is unlawful to contact people in foreclosure unless you are an attorney or real estate gent.

8. If you miss payments on the underlying loan you can go to jail after a very unpleasant investigation.

9. The seller can come back in a year or two and say the sale was unfair and they were taken advantage of and an attorney will believe them and sue you.

10. You can use a Quit Claim Deed and that can be rejected when you go to sell the property.

11. The seller can disappear from contact over time and not be available when you go to sell - you need their assistance oftentimes depending on the lender.

12. You can't contact the lender directly, they won't talk to you.

13. The payment can change and you won't be notified.

14. You can find out later that there was someone else on title that you weren't told about until you get sued.

15. Of course there are more Pitfalls. Did you think this was easy? ;-)

There are solutions for all of these but that is a conversation for later.


 Isn't the Subject To Purchase Agreement / Contract able to help prevent a lot of this.  Can't you word it to where the Seller understands what is happening and keep the buyer free from lawsuit?  Whats the best way to protect yourself as the buyer.

Post: Subject To Listings

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Nathan Frost:

Hi, is there a website or place to see who is selling properties Subject To?

No. In my experience it is almost always "off market" with rare exception and it has to be arrainged on a case by case basis. Very few people will accept Subject To, but it does happen and does work, if you do it legally.

If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. ;-)

 And when you do finally find someone to do Subject To, with understand the following

Using Subject To, to Get Properties

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/311/topics/1060320-using-subject-to-to-get-free-properties-a-quick-guideline


 Agree.  I am reading Pace Morby's book and him / other investors say Subject To is the way to grow and not use your own money.  Man, I know investors in my town and they haven't bought anything Subject To.  Only one investor has got 1-2 on Subject To but had trouble renting the property out because it wasn't in the best location.