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All Forum Posts by: Omar Khan

Omar Khan has started 11 posts and replied 1427 times.

Post: What are the reasons syndicators fail

Omar KhanPosted
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  • Dallas, TX
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Originally posted by @Bryan Mitchell:

What are the top reasons apartment syndicators fail? Please provide specific examples of those who have failed. Thank you.

Lately, I've also been seeing a lot of "positive mindset" newbies with little to no experience/education coming into the space and then complaining that they failed. They are typically weekend warriors.

No amount of positive thinking is going to save you when math is working against you. 

Post: Cardone Capital...anyone looked into this?

Omar KhanPosted
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Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:
Originally posted by @Omar Khan:
Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:
Originally posted by @Omar Khan:
Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:
Originally posted by @Omar Khan:
Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:
Originally posted by @Nate R.:

I am thinking about taking a flyer on Cardone Capital Equity V with a small investment. I like his videos and podcasts about real estate. Seems to be focused on Class A, large properties that could be acquired by REIT's and PE funds. He boasts of a long track record.

The fund holding period is 10 years, so it requires a long-term commitment. This is different from many of the syndications I've seen, where the sponsor tries to give your money back within 5 years.

I am in some syndication deals but due to not being accredited, I don't see many opportunities to invest in Houston, Atlanta, Florida and other areas that GC invests in.

 Please do keep us posted. The idea of him letting in non-accredited investors is very telling. If the DEAL is good enough, you wouldn't need non-accredited investors. The requisite funds would be swiftly raised from accredited investors if the deal is good. Same goes for needing a massive brand and marketing campaign. I was debating throwing in $25K, but his PPM has classic red flags/stay away when I read one of the earlier funds' PPM 1 year ago.

Not promoting GC here but what's wrong with opening up a legitimate investing vehicle for non-accredited investors. I'm assuming you haven't raised sizable pools of capital before but even accredited investors don't fall from the sky wanting to throw their money at each and every "good" deal. Sizable sponsors with decades long track record still have to slog it out to raise money (albeit with less pain than others). 

Do agree on the red flags part. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... 

This is inaccurate. A lot of the firms I invest in, when a new deal comes up, the folks who have already invested with them just fund it. It would even be hard for a new investor to get in. Not even talking about accepting non-accredited investors, which they don't.

I am okay with a new firm accepting non-accredited for their first 1 or 2 deals while they build an investor base. The best deals do have "accredited investors fall from the sky" they fill up 3 days after an email to existing investors :D

The deals I keep getting with non-accredited slots usually suck. And they usually have 3 or 4 additional capital raisers slogged on top of it, diluting returns even further. I won't sugarcoat this.

I agree with the sentiment of what you are saying but I think you might not have a good grasp on how these things work from a sponsor's perspective. Every single sponsor on the planet is trying to diversify their equity sources, even the ones that supposedly do not take money anymore like Baupost Group (Seth Klarman). This includes global behemoths like Blackstone and Apollo. While they may not accept your or my money (because it is too little), nonetheless, they, too, are actively expanding their equity sources (just at a very different level). 

Not supporting CC here but till you haven't actually gone and raised $20M, $50M or even $100M (which only a handful of folks in the country can do easily), it's easy being a keyboard warrior and talking about technicalities. 

 It's very, very hard raising huge gobs of money. You have to fight for every dollar because money doesn't fall from the sky. 

In other words, most big name sponsors aren't trying to buy a few SFR's or 1-2 multifamily properties per year. They have a pipeline in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Ain't easy filling that up.

P.S. Not saying I would invest in CC.

 I'm talking typical 5-15M$ capital raises.

I can assure you 99.9% of the people on this website (and the world) can not raise $5M, let alone $15M. Unless you're some capital raising savant, I wouldn't put the words $5M and typical in the same sentence. 

Again, not saying you should invest with CC but you might have a warped sense of how hard it is to raise millions of dollars, multiple times a year.

Nope. Good deals sell themselves and are oversubscribed in days. Grant accepting non-accredited investors is nothing more than a cash grab to make him and his family richer. Someone with a $100K net worth shouldn't even consider his 'deals'. I'm sorry but have you read his PPM? $5-10M is a low capital raise by the way.

lol @ low capital raise. Would love to see you post your numbers on capital raising. 

Also someone with a $100K net worth shouldn't be investing in illiquid assets in the first place.

I have read his PPM and do feel that it is one-sided. But all major syndicators/PE firms have one-sided contracts. That's the price you pay to be with a headliner vs. an also-ran. Again, not saying that I would invest in CC but you have zero idea on how hard it is raise millions of dollars. 

P.S. If you can raise $5M-$15M as easily as you claim happens in real life, let's talk!

Post: Cardone Capital...anyone looked into this?

Omar KhanPosted
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  • Dallas, TX
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Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:
Originally posted by @Omar Khan:
Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:
Originally posted by @Omar Khan:
Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:
Originally posted by @Nate R.:

I am thinking about taking a flyer on Cardone Capital Equity V with a small investment. I like his videos and podcasts about real estate. Seems to be focused on Class A, large properties that could be acquired by REIT's and PE funds. He boasts of a long track record.

The fund holding period is 10 years, so it requires a long-term commitment. This is different from many of the syndications I've seen, where the sponsor tries to give your money back within 5 years.

I am in some syndication deals but due to not being accredited, I don't see many opportunities to invest in Houston, Atlanta, Florida and other areas that GC invests in.

 Please do keep us posted. The idea of him letting in non-accredited investors is very telling. If the DEAL is good enough, you wouldn't need non-accredited investors. The requisite funds would be swiftly raised from accredited investors if the deal is good. Same goes for needing a massive brand and marketing campaign. I was debating throwing in $25K, but his PPM has classic red flags/stay away when I read one of the earlier funds' PPM 1 year ago.

Not promoting GC here but what's wrong with opening up a legitimate investing vehicle for non-accredited investors. I'm assuming you haven't raised sizable pools of capital before but even accredited investors don't fall from the sky wanting to throw their money at each and every "good" deal. Sizable sponsors with decades long track record still have to slog it out to raise money (albeit with less pain than others). 

Do agree on the red flags part. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... 

This is inaccurate. A lot of the firms I invest in, when a new deal comes up, the folks who have already invested with them just fund it. It would even be hard for a new investor to get in. Not even talking about accepting non-accredited investors, which they don't.

I am okay with a new firm accepting non-accredited for their first 1 or 2 deals while they build an investor base. The best deals do have "accredited investors fall from the sky" they fill up 3 days after an email to existing investors :D

The deals I keep getting with non-accredited slots usually suck. And they usually have 3 or 4 additional capital raisers slogged on top of it, diluting returns even further. I won't sugarcoat this.

I agree with the sentiment of what you are saying but I think you might not have a good grasp on how these things work from a sponsor's perspective. Every single sponsor on the planet is trying to diversify their equity sources, even the ones that supposedly do not take money anymore like Baupost Group (Seth Klarman). This includes global behemoths like Blackstone and Apollo. While they may not accept your or my money (because it is too little), nonetheless, they, too, are actively expanding their equity sources (just at a very different level). 

Not supporting CC here but till you haven't actually gone and raised $20M, $50M or even $100M (which only a handful of folks in the country can do easily), it's easy being a keyboard warrior and talking about technicalities. 

 It's very, very hard raising huge gobs of money. You have to fight for every dollar because money doesn't fall from the sky. 

In other words, most big name sponsors aren't trying to buy a few SFR's or 1-2 multifamily properties per year. They have a pipeline in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Ain't easy filling that up.

P.S. Not saying I would invest in CC.

 I'm talking typical 5-15M$ capital raises.

I can assure you 99.9% of the people on this website (and the world) can not raise $5M, let alone $15M. Unless you're some capital raising savant, I wouldn't put the words $5M and typical in the same sentence. 

Again, not saying you should invest with CC but you might have a warped sense of how hard it is to raise millions of dollars, multiple times a year.

Post: Mortgage is taking all of rental income

Omar KhanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 1,473
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Originally posted by @Bob Nickel:

There is a Wendy's for sale for $1.7 million. It has a 5.5% cap rate which is $93.5k. How can you profit since the mortgage will take almost all of that. I used online mortgage calculator and I don't get how people profit like this.

Great comments above. Depending on the location, a lot of folks park their money as the area could be seeing massive capital appreciation i.e. land values go up exponentially in the next few years (or that is the expectation). 

There are a multitude of reasons plus the advertised sales price is not always the price an asset actually gets sold at. 

Post: Cardone Capital...anyone looked into this?

Omar KhanPosted
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  • Dallas, TX
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Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:
Originally posted by @Omar Khan:
Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:
Originally posted by @Nate R.:

I am thinking about taking a flyer on Cardone Capital Equity V with a small investment. I like his videos and podcasts about real estate. Seems to be focused on Class A, large properties that could be acquired by REIT's and PE funds. He boasts of a long track record.

The fund holding period is 10 years, so it requires a long-term commitment. This is different from many of the syndications I've seen, where the sponsor tries to give your money back within 5 years.

I am in some syndication deals but due to not being accredited, I don't see many opportunities to invest in Houston, Atlanta, Florida and other areas that GC invests in.

 Please do keep us posted. The idea of him letting in non-accredited investors is very telling. If the DEAL is good enough, you wouldn't need non-accredited investors. The requisite funds would be swiftly raised from accredited investors if the deal is good. Same goes for needing a massive brand and marketing campaign. I was debating throwing in $25K, but his PPM has classic red flags/stay away when I read one of the earlier funds' PPM 1 year ago.

Not promoting GC here but what's wrong with opening up a legitimate investing vehicle for non-accredited investors. I'm assuming you haven't raised sizable pools of capital before but even accredited investors don't fall from the sky wanting to throw their money at each and every "good" deal. Sizable sponsors with decades long track record still have to slog it out to raise money (albeit with less pain than others). 

Do agree on the red flags part. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... 

This is inaccurate. A lot of the firms I invest in, when a new deal comes up, the folks who have already invested with them just fund it. It would even be hard for a new investor to get in. Not even talking about accepting non-accredited investors, which they don't.

I am okay with a new firm accepting non-accredited for their first 1 or 2 deals while they build an investor base. The best deals do have "accredited investors fall from the sky" they fill up 3 days after an email to existing investors :D

The deals I keep getting with non-accredited slots usually suck. And they usually have 3 or 4 additional capital raisers slogged on top of it, diluting returns even further. I won't sugarcoat this.

I agree with the sentiment of what you are saying but I think you might not have a good grasp on how these things work from a sponsor's perspective. Every single sponsor on the planet is trying to diversify their equity sources, even the ones that supposedly do not take money anymore like Baupost Group (Seth Klarman). This includes global behemoths like Blackstone and Apollo. While they may not accept your or my money (because it is too little), nonetheless, they, too, are actively expanding their equity sources (just at a very different level). 

Not supporting CC here but till you haven't actually gone and raised $20M, $50M or even $100M (which only a handful of folks in the country can do easily), it's easy being a keyboard warrior and talking about technicalities. 

 It's very, very hard raising huge gobs of money. You have to fight for every dollar because money doesn't fall from the sky. 

In other words, most big name sponsors aren't trying to buy a few SFR's or 1-2 multifamily properties per year. They have a pipeline in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Ain't easy filling that up.

P.S. Not saying I would invest in CC.

Post: Searching for retail investment compaines

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  • Dallas, TX
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Originally posted by @Caleb Wooldridge:

Hello,

Would anyone know of any good websites where I could find lists of retail investment companies who own shopping centers, mall and retail plazas primarily throughout the United States? Looking for lists that will contain the companies name, individuals within the company that have the following roles: Acquisitions, COO, CFO, CEO, (only need one of these members),their contact information, and the companies website. Even if the list only contains the companies name and website, that would be okay.

Thank you for your time,

Don't think people are going to hand you the keys to the kingdom for free (or even if you pay for them). As @Joel Owens said, these lists are highly valuable. On top of that, even if you get such lists but don't know the decision-markers, you're going to have a tough time even getting past the EA.

Post: Syndication for the millennial investor

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Originally posted by @Ben Walker:

Our investment group owns 10 multi-family properties and about 800 units. We have raised capital for 2 deals thus far from a trusted network of mostly baby-boomers and wealthy family friends. 

I am trying to put together marketing material that helps people easily understand the opportunity and how syndication works. Does anyone have examples or suggestions they would be willing to share?

This is really not as hard some people would lead you to believe. 

Simply put, you need to have substantive, pre-existing relationships with investors before you take their money. This is unless you will file under 506c in which case... go crazy advertising (with some obvious limits which your attorney can guide you on). 

For marketing materials, outline your track record, the investment opportunity and market. Essentially, you want to answer the question - why you. That's it! 

Honestly, at the initial stages your investors are investing more in you and less in the opportunity. You just have to outline why you will be a good steward of their capital.

You can also save yourself a ton of hassle and sign on to most syndicators email lists.  You will then be bombarded with emails whenever a new deal is available. You can copy everything they do. 

Like with most other things in life, you will hire a lawyer which you will do here as well. Just try to hire the best one and you'll be fine. 

This is NOT the hardest thing in the world as some people make it out to be.

P.S. Please, don't make lame credibility books. They are the true mark of a noob. You already have a track record - use it.

Post: Syndication/Opportunity Zone 506 (b) funding advice

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Originally posted by @Derek Raivio:

Experienced syndicators!

Our team is in the midst of finalizing our Opportunity Zone Fund based in SPOKANE, Wa. We are looking to raise $30M, with the total project being worth $80M ($50M leverage). We own the dirt, and we are at the final leg of legal and accounting (operating agreement, PPM, subscription agreement, etc...)

The property is in a prime location abutting the main city park, and over looking the river which cuts through downtown. An added bonus is that adjacent to our property, the city is in the process of building a state of the art 180,000 sqft. sportsplex. We really lucked out with the OZ location designation.

The project will be 2 towers. One will be a 6 story mixed use building with retail/office/apartments. The second and larger tower will consist of 6 floors of parking with office and hotel directly above. The tower will be comprised of 12 stories total.

My role will be investor relations- essentially seeking capital contributions from investors and managing those relationships as the asset matures.

After speaking with our legal counsel we have opted for Regulation D Rule 506 B. My question for the forum is- Since we cannot use general solicitation or advertising to market our fund, what are the most effective and creative way you have raised funds in this space?

Myself and our team has a respectable “Rolodex”; however, we have been told by legal that even friends or friends cannot invest in our fund since there isn’t a “preexisting substantive relationship”.

Is there a work around? How do you market? What do you say when asked about your project? Can someone that hears about the fund promote it to friends and family? Can that same person promote it during an interview?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance!

Please, don't take this the wrong way but it doesn't seem like you are ready to raise $30M because these are very basic questions (not saying you shouldn't ask them). Raising $30M is a big commitment that only a few handful of syndicators in the country are able to do. Without a successful track record and extensive rolodex of people in this area, you will be swimming upstream. 

I am assuming that you are a junior analyst with a developer (and that they have a more extensive track record). If so, why not rely on their relationships within the broker-dealer community?

Post: Simple Lessons From Closing on a 138-Unit Apartment Community

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Originally posted by @David S.:

@Omar Khan. Came across this post and found it a most interesting read.

Can you please share why that large investor walked?

It looks like you ended up taking up a new Co-GP that also expanded your investor base?

Are there any lessons you can share in regards to how the property's operations have gone since closing? Despite walking the property and verifying lease income (which I expect you would have done), are unexpected things you discovered after the close that you would caution investors to look for during underwriting, property due diligence and post closing process?

Thanks for the kind words.

Our largest equity partner had a death in the family – patriarch died.

We had the opportunity to bring on multiple partners but went with the one we felt offered the best combination of equity and business acumen.

Property’s operations are ahead of schedule because we had researched the market very thoroughly before investing. Our “issue” (if you can call it that) has been that we are now done with the bulk of the exterior (and interior rehabs) and waiting for the next set of leases to expire so that we can upgrade those units as well.

The big things to watch out are always the same – investing in supply constrained markets with value-add upside (true value-add vs. taking existing renovations to the “next” level – which all brokers tell you is the big thing) and being adequately capitalized.

Post: Multifamily Investments in Killeen, TX

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Originally posted by @Dee Shaun:

@Omar Khan

Would you mind citing a source for your comment about lending?

@Charles Seaman

The biggest issue you would have to deal with is the cost of repairs associated with high turnovers since military people move a lot. Specifically make ready repairs.

Also what the guy in military uniform said was legit.

Military towns are usually good for rentals

Source = multiple lenders I talked to on a weekly basis as I am a syndicator. This is also basic risk management because you don't your revenue tied to any one professional/industry as it makes it hard to manage the risk in your loan book.