All Forum Posts by: Omar Khan
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Post: Florida Multifamily Market
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Originally posted by @Matt Nusbaum:
Hi @Alejandro Antonio Taylor JR as @Omar Khan said you are surrounded by great markets in FL and there is a large supply of smaller multis to choose from so be picky. I'd also recommend you partner with someone who has already succeeded operating a smaller property. A 20 unit will be operation intensive since you will likely have to self manage as the property is not large enough to pay for onsite management. I'd recommend finding someone to JV with and then grow from there.
@Omar Khan - hope all is well brother!
Long time. All is well. Hope you're doing well too.
Post: How important is a bachelors degree as a real estate investor?
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Originally posted by @Scott Mac:
Originally posted by @Terrell Garren:
Originally posted by @Scott Mac:
Originally posted by @Terrell Garren:
Risk Management, tax accounting, financial reporting, financial accounting, financial analysis, financial mathematics, macro economics, asset and debt management, business law, business strategy. Just to name a couple.
I'm aware of the curriculum and I'm also aware of what most accounting jobs entail--and do you use the content of these courses (that you paid them to test you on) to earn a living? Are you using this knowledge to earn a living? In other words you could not perform your day to day activities at your job without this knowledge that they sold you?
To do your job, someone MUST know all of the things that were written in the books they rented to you?
????
You might be confusing your personal experiences or opinions with reality. It all depends on the degree you get. If you're shelling out $100K for a degree in interpretive dance... then I get your point. But most folks, including myself, who graduate from a top 10-15 school in STEM, accounting/finance, life science (esp. pre med) and similar fields are easily earning $100K+ within 3-5 years of their undergrad degree (you might find it interesting to know that I graduated in 2008... so not the best timing for a finance major).
Successful entrepreneurs make more money than most people but getting a solid education from a top-tier institution is still the highest probability path to ensuring social mobility and an upper middle-class life (at the bare minimum).
Post: Paying a syndication sponsor's (high) travel costs
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Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:
Originally posted by @Luke Miller:
@Andrey Y. let us know what the sponsor says. I'd be curious. For reference, my travel (before the deal closes) is usually limited to a couple thousand on the high end. For due diligence, I budget somewhere around $100/ unit for inspections and then a certain percentage to do the file audit.
I would imagine that there is a reasonable (in their mind) explanation for their costs, but who knows? I doubt they are using it for nefarious purposes like @Jay Hinrichs insinuating, but i've been wrong before.
That's the beauty of being an informed investor though, if you don't like the offering move on. No one is forcing you to invest.
The sponsor contacted me in private and was very upset that I shared 'confidential information' from the PPM, and they weren't okay with it. So it sounds like I am 'out of' this opportunity.
I was contacted by other players in this space, they said I did nothing of the sort because I didn't state the name of the sponsor nor did I share a copy of the PPM with anyone. Saying "this anonymous sponsor" has $250K fees for travel and DD isn't a breach of anything, and I'm happy that experienced commercial multifamily operators are telling me this.
If someone is totally comfy with the fees they are charging, I think they would be happy to explain it. Out loud. In public, even. It shouldn't be a big secret. This is just my opinion. Others are welcome to disagree.
I don't really want to get into specifics of their answer, as I am afraid this may upset them further. Potentially, people can deduce who the sponsor is if I talk about the types of deals they are doing? Anyway, out of respect I won't post those details in this venue.
I will only say that their justification kind of made sense, but I am still not totally clear that that entire figure is warranted. So, if I am going based on what @Omar Khan said above, definitely would pass on this particular opportunity.
You did nothing wrong because you did not name anyone nor provide any hint in your post as to who that person could be. Going off your post, this could literally be ANY sponsor in the entire world. Don't understand why the sponsor is butt hurt (FYI: I am a sponsor).
I am not saying that a sponsor has to agree to every point an LP raises - legitimate or not. But asking for a breakdown on fees and airing questions around the use of funds is entirely within your rights. In fact, it would be dumb to NOT do it.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant. It might be for the best to avoid this person/group because (only based off your post/responses) they are not transparent.
Post: Florida Multifamily Market
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@Alejandro Antonio Taylor JR You are surrounded by great markets - JAX (and surrounding areas), Orlando and Tampa. Take your pick!
If you're buying 20-30 unit buildings you will have a ton of options and should do fine as long as you are not buying in the hood.
Post: I have 10k to invest, Cant get a mortgage! What would you do?
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Thank you so much, Khan, for your detailed response. My initial reaction was to wait to be approved for a mortgage but thought I would look into other solutions and not getting discouraged. But I have definitely been warned about owners with malice intentions, If you don't mind can you go deeper into what you meant when you said owners "loan to (re) own".
You are offered an "attractive" financing from the seller but the fine print and legalese is designed to trip you up ie you will pay to get in and then because you are in breach of some BS minor point or you have over-leveraged yourself the seller can take back the possession of the property and cut you out.
Post: Connect with awesome multifamily investors in South Florida
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Originally posted by @Zilma Yotte-Johnson:
@Omar Khan do you know of any in Tampa?
Sadly, none in Tampa but you should look on Meetup.com to see if you can find any events to attend. You will have to attend a lot of lame events to find the one that is right for you.
Post: I have 10k to invest, Cant get a mortgage! What would you do?
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@Account Closed
Banks are in the business of handing our mortgages. If that is not happening in your case, there might be mitigating circumstances. I can understand that sometimes life events occur which may cause a bad credit score or financial hardship (not saying they happened in your case). Maybe you can try to fix those areas where your mortgage application is lacking before trying to secure a house.
This will mean getting on more secure financial footing before embarking on real estate ownership. It will also benefit you in many other areas as well as ensuring, on average, that you are better able to own a certain piece of real estate long term.
If the above doesn't apply, you can always try to get seller financing. But remember that certain owners can be predatory and you might be dealing with someone who "loans to (re) own".
Post: Connect with awesome multifamily investors in South Florida
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@Lennon Lee Runs a very successful and popular meetup in/around the Miami area for multifamily where you will find investors and sponsors alike.
Post: Paying a syndication sponsor's (high) travel costs
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Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:
Originally posted by @Omar Khan:
Originally posted by @Charlotte Dunford:
I am a sponsor of mobile home park deals. Regardless of the asset type, here's how the syndication business works. The acquisition fee, cash flow split, and whatever that goes into the pocket of the GP is the cost of the product you are purchasing from the GP. That product is money - the return you are getting on your investment. You definitely want your GP to be 100% transparent about where your money is going. However, if you were getting the returns you want, it wouldn't matter if the GP is eating lobsters or fast food. If you pay $800 for an iphone, would you care how Apple shareholders are spending it? It's the same thing in the syndication business. It's the end results that count - your returns.
There is an ample amount of research (dating back decades) into this topic and it all points in one direction - costs matter!
I have to agree with @Andrey Y. initial reaction at balking at these costs. As @Brian Burke mentioned, one should dig deeper and not go off first impression only but at the end of the day it DOES matter (by a lot) what the sponsor is doing, how they are conducting themselves and, most importantly, how they are spending the funds entrusted to them. This goes to the core of how this or any other commercial transaction transpires ie the sponsor should act as a fiduciary and is not living the high life off investor funds.
Or in simpler words, it is doubtful that the average sponsor (again, deeper research needs to be done) would be eating lobster if this was their own money.
Well, this certainly is the opposite viewpoint to what Jingwen said above. I'm not sure so far how I feel about it.
All financial research done points to the same conclusion - costs matter. At the end of the day, costs come directly out of the investors pockets. You should read the old book: Where are the customers' yachts? It's written from the perspective of a stockbroker/investing in stocks/bonds but the exact principles apply.
Also, I am assuming you work hard for your money. If after research you feel the sponsor is doing something that you would feel (somewhat) dubious in nature, then run for the hills. Just because a sponsor is hitting their numbers does not justify bad behavior.
Post: Paying a syndication sponsor's (high) travel costs
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Originally posted by @Charlotte Dunford:
I am a sponsor of mobile home park deals. Regardless of the asset type, here's how the syndication business works. The acquisition fee, cash flow split, and whatever that goes into the pocket of the GP is the cost of the product you are purchasing from the GP. That product is money - the return you are getting on your investment. You definitely want your GP to be 100% transparent about where your money is going. However, if you were getting the returns you want, it wouldn't matter if the GP is eating lobsters or fast food. If you pay $800 for an iphone, would you care how Apple shareholders are spending it? It's the same thing in the syndication business. It's the end results that count - your returns.
There is an ample amount of research (dating back decades) into this topic and it all points in one direction - costs matter!
I have to agree with @Andrey Y. initial reaction at balking at these costs. As @Brian Burke mentioned, one should dig deeper and not go off first impression only but at the end of the day it DOES matter (by a lot) what the sponsor is doing, how they are conducting themselves and, most importantly, how they are spending the funds entrusted to them. This goes to the core of how this or any other commercial transaction transpires ie the sponsor should act as a fiduciary and is not living the high life off investor funds.
Or in simpler words, it is doubtful that the average sponsor (again, deeper research needs to be done) would be eating lobster if this was their own money.



