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All Forum Posts by: Patrick Goswitz

Patrick Goswitz has started 11 posts and replied 43 times.

Post: Rehab Lead Generation website

Patrick GoswitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 20

Almost all of my deals are from my website. I am sure any website creator could create a way to automatically funnel the leads into your CRM when someone fills out the forum. 

You can take a look here at mine and even copy it. (yes it's cheesy haha but it gets me deals!): https://sellmyhousefastknoxvilletn.com/

I would look to see who is ranking in your market for the keywords like "Sell My House Fast" "cash home buyers" etc and get someone off Fiver to create a similar website which would save you a significant amount. Also type a different city and state name to get other ideas on website design. "Sell My House Fast {city name]" 

In terms of generating leads, PPC and my Google Business Profile have been amazing for me. The SERPs, not so much. Just be careful about spending a lot of money for online marketing. I am happy to chat further if you have questions. 

Post: Fix & Flip Insurance

Patrick GoswitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 20

I have been using Obie!

Post: Section 8 Tenant Update

Patrick GoswitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 20
Quote from @Jamie O'Connell:
Quote from @Patrick Goswitz:

Thanks for sharing this!!! I was going to do section 8 on a triplex I have that is completely remodeled. They are builder grade finishes but everything is new.

Unit #1- 4 bed 2 bath. SAFMR= $2410

Unit #2- 2 bed 1 bath. SAFMR= $1630

Unit #3 (Upstairs) 4 bed 1 bath. SAFMR= $2410

I have some questions:
From my understanding there is no guarantee I get the full SAFMR rate, is that correct? 

Are tenants going to be ok with a 4 bed 1 bath? 

Do your tenants pay the utilities?

Any other pointers would be great. This is my first section 8.


Great questions! So I get about $50 less than the fmr for 2025. But I do hear they are increasing it in October. One thing about section 8 is they tell you NOTHING. You have to guess and be a bit annoying in order to get the tiniest of detail. Yes 1 bathroom for a 4 bed will be ok. Normal market prob have some people not liking it but section 8 usually will be just happy to have an updated place with enough room. 

Do NOT pay their utilities. Take the cheaper rent (usually about $100 less) and have them cover as much of the utilities as your town will allow. Otherwise you’ll be paying $300-800 electric bills that cannot be explained. I made thst mistake and spent last year switching everyone over.  


 Thanks! I saw for 2026 in my zip code in 37917 Knoxville, Tn that they are reducing the SAFMR by a pretty hefty amount. I was super bummed to see that. Unless the numbers they released aren't really final. 

Post: Section 8 Tenant Update

Patrick GoswitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 20

Thanks for sharing this!!! I was going to do section 8 on a triplex I have that is completely remodeled. They are builder grade finishes but everything is new.

Unit #1- 4 bed 2 bath. SAFMR= $2410

Unit #2- 2 bed 1 bath. SAFMR= $1630

Unit #3 (Upstairs) 4 bed 1 bath. SAFMR= $2410

I have some questions:
From my understanding there is no guarantee I get the full SAFMR rate, is that correct? 

Are tenants going to be ok with a 4 bed 1 bath? 

Do your tenants pay the utilities?

Any other pointers would be great. This is my first section 8.

Post: Cash Flow $2,000/ Month On A Triplex

Patrick GoswitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 20
Quote from @Daniel Sehy:
Quote from @Patrick Goswitz:

The property is in Knoxville, TN. It is a 4br, 4br, 2br. The property would bring in $77,400/year in gross rent. Property taxes are $2,770 and insurance would be about $2,400/year. I would be looking to sell the property at $910,000, 4% interest rate, balloon in 5 years, amortized 30yr, 20% down. This would make their monthly PITI payment $3,905. Comps are a little scarce with 3+ units, this close to downtown and completely up to code. Of course everything is perspective, but would an investor be content with these terms?

@Patrick Goswitz - Appreciate you putting this out there. Here's a quick breakdown from our lens:

High-Level Analysis (Investor View)

  • Gross Rent: $6,450/month

  • PITI: $3,905/month

  • Est. Ops/Reserves (35%): ~$2,145/month

  • Net Monthly Cash Flow: ~$77/month

  • Annual Cash-on-Cash Return: ~0.5%

  • Cap Rate: ~5.25%

  • DSCR: ~1.15

Reality Check (from the field):
Most serious investors right now are looking for:

  • 1.3–1.4 DSCR for stabilized hold

  • 5–8%+ cash-on-cash or a clear path to return equity through a refi or value-add

Where This Could Work:

  • Price adjustment closer to $800K–$850K

  • Bundling with adjacent assets to create scale for future exit

  • Or if there’s a refi strategy within 2–3 years to pull capital and de-risk the hold

Curious to hear from others in the group:

Appreciate any and all perspectives, let’s break this down together.


 I think you're right in the ball park. Assuming I owner finance and balloon in 5 years but amortized over 30yrs this is what GPT came up with after punching in some numbers.

Income

  • Annual Gross Rent: $77,400

Expenses

  • Insurance: $4,800/year

  • Taxes: $2,772/year

  • Maintenance: $4,800/year

  • Operating Expenses (excl. debt): $12,372/year

Debt Service

  • Interest: $33,960/year

  • Principal: $9,648/year

  • Total Debt Service (Principal + Interest): $43,608/year

Net Operating Income (NOI)

77,400−12,372=65,02877,400 - 12,372 = 65,02877,400−12,372=65,028

NOI = $65,028/year

Performance Metrics

  • Cap Rate (on $800K value): 8.13%

  • Cash Flow (after debt service): $21,420/year (~$1,785/month positive)

  • DCR (with full debt service): 1.49 (healthy)

Summary
With debt fully accounted for (interest + principal), the property still cash flows positively at $21.4K/year. The DCR of 1.49 indicates it easily covers its mortgage, and the cap rate remains strong at 8.1% cap rate.

Post: Cash Flow $2,000/ Month On A Triplex

Patrick GoswitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 20
Quote from @Dylan Villano:

 gross and net are very different. fully renovated, what does that mean? new roof, new hvac, new bathrooms and kitchens? or only paint and carpet? are they metered seperately?

You are giving very vague information asking for a very specific answer.  A property address so a person could run an actual analysis would serve you better.

Fully renovated means everything in the home has been renovated. The only thing that is not new would be the foundation. Each unit is metered seperately.

Post: Cash Flow $2,000/ Month On A Triplex

Patrick GoswitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 20

The property is in Knoxville, TN. It is a 4br, 4br, 2br. The property would bring in $77,400/year in gross rent. Property taxes are $2,770 and insurance would be about $2,400/year. I would be looking to sell the property at $910,000, 4% interest rate, balloon in 5 years, amortized 30yr, 20% down. This would make their monthly PITI payment $3,905. Comps are a little scarce with 3+ units, this close to downtown and completely up to code. Of course everything is perspective, but would an investor be content with these terms?

Post: Cash Flow $2,000/ Month On A Triplex

Patrick GoswitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 20

If you're able to cash flow on $2,000/ month on a fully renovated triplex, how much do you think an investor would pay for the triplex? Assume a good area and 5 minutes from the downtown.

Post: How Do You Decide When a Flip Is Worth It in Today’s Market?

Patrick GoswitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 20

I think the 70% minus repairs is a great baseline. However, how do you know you can't get a better deal? I like to ask the question "if I pay off your mortgage, and there are no fees that you have to pay, how much do you need in your pocket to be able to move onto the next chapter in your life?" (something along those lines)

Sometimes the amount they need to net is not as much as what I originally thought, allowing me to offer less and still get them what they asked for. If you only stick to formulas, you're always going to be capping your profits.

Post: Multi Family Rehab

Patrick GoswitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 20
Quote from @Robert Ellis:
Quote from @Patrick Goswitz:

I own a Triplex and was planning to refinance the property after renovations and then rent it. The property does need a significant renovation about 425k worth to redo everything. The property can bring in $6,900/ month according to Small Area Fair Market Rents in this zip code. I can use a HELOC to fund the renovations but that would require me to unload other properties. I was wondering what other options are out there or if using my HELOC would be the best route?

knoxville TN bringing in $2300 a door per month on a triplex? can you show me the floorplan I'll start building it in Columbus Ohio. it's either an STR, MTR, or it's a 3-4 bedroom unit or the underwriting is off.

4 bedroom= 2590
4 bedroom= 2590
2 bedroom= 1750
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