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Post: Kansas City Area

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Originally posted by @Daniel Highsmith:
I'm starting to research the Kansas City area for SFRs and Multi-family. I'm looking for a B class neighborhoods. Can anyone point me to the right zip codes to start researching? From what i've heard, I need to stay on the Missouri side and not the Kansas side.
B areas is a bit subjective, but I think Hyde Park, Westport, the Waldo and Brookside in KCMO as well as the older parts of Lee's Summit, much of Blue Springs, Olathe, Gladstone, Prairie Village and Shawnee are good areas to look.
Post: Valuing a 4-plex im considering purchasing

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Originally posted by @Miles Stanley:
@Immanuel Sibero, i thought NOI basically included everything except financing costs?? i will look into the GRM method some more.
@Tony R. Yagiela, @Andrew Syrios, thanks for the feedback...but i thought cap rate was really for 5-plex's on up?
Sort of, but there's no hard and fast rule. There is no exact rule for valuing properties and you have to use the tools that are available in any given circumstance.
Post: HELP! Water leak under floor - move tenant to hotel?

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Originally posted by @Denise Mayo-Walley:
Thank you @Andrew Syrios for your reply. The plumber is heading there now to assess things.
The water actually does not affect the bathroom but the small hallway leading to the hall full bath and the bedrooms. It's a small home so the tenants have to walk on the wet area if they want to go get from the bedrooms to the living area and kitchen.
There are 2 full baths however I'm. It sure of the water leaks when either of them is used.
In that case, unless the plumber will need to turn the house into a giant construction zone, I wouldn't put them up in a motel. Think about it this way, if this tenant was a homeowner, would they stick it out while it was being fixed, or would they hole up in a motel? I think in this case, they would stick it out. So maybe just offer them a rental discount if it's really bad. But if it can be fixed quickly, I'm not even sure that is necessary.
Post: Valuing a 4-plex im considering purchasing

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Originally posted by @Miles Stanley:
@Immanuel Sibero, @Andrew Syrios, @Tony R. Yagiela - thanks, but unless I'm seriously mistaken, even the BP calculators include CapEx as an operating expense to determine the NOI. Are the calculators wrong then? i know there are a useful tool, but i strive to understand the underlying concepts, not just plug and chug into a spreadsheet/calculator.
I could have sworn also that several real estate books i have include cap ex as operating expenses too. i don't have any nearby (they're at home)...
Thanks,
Up front CAPEX should not be included, but it's important to include recurring CAPEX in the operating expenses (at least in my opinion). Banks often call this item Replacement Reserves. HVAC, roofs, etc. will go out and those expenses will need to be paid out of cash flow, so it should be accounted for up front.
Post: I want to creat history in the field of Real Estates and I will.

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Welcome to BP Sumit and best of luck investing (and creating history, of course)!
Post: Starting Out

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Welcome to BiggerPockets Fatimah and good luck investing!
Post: Continue the Grind

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Well said.
Post: HELP! Water leak under floor - move tenant to hotel?

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Two major questions: 1) Is this the only bathroom in the house? and 2) This one is for the plumber, how long it will take to fix? If they have a 2nd bathroom or the project can be finished in a day, I wouldn't put them up in a motel. Maybe just give them a rental discount if it's bad enough, which would be much cheaper. But if the house is going to be turned into a complete construction zone without a functional bathroom for several days, then yeah, it's pretty standard to put them up in a motel. But you want to get as good an idea as possible as to what you are dealing with and what it will take and how long it will take to fix before you make such a decision.
Post: Valuing a 4-plex im considering purchasing

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Comps for small multi's are challenging. Yes, you want to look at any comps you can find. If you have to look at duplexes, triplexes or 6plexes, that's fine, just make the appropriate adjustments. Even look at single families, not as a direct comparison, but to get an idea of the quality of the neighborhood.
Also, fourplex is about the time when you want to start looking at cap rates. Do you know about what cap rates in that area are going for normally? You can look at comps or ask agents to get a feel for it. (This is not an exact science). Then if you have an operating statement on the 4plex, that can give you an idea of what you're looking at. You can also use a pro forma, but use your own, not the seller's, and use conservative numbers. It is not at all uncommon for sellers to give grossly exaggerated pro formas to puff up the supposed value of the property they are trying to sell.
Post: Before and After Pics

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That looks fantastic, great job Nick!