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All Forum Posts by: Robert Ellis

Robert Ellis has started 340 posts and replied 3219 times.

Post: Wholesalers in Columbus OH Class A Neighborhoods

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Originally posted by @Darrin Wesenberg:

Hey @Robert Ellis, I've seen some of your posts and listings and you seem to be having great success.  I'm currently involved in a deal in Italian Village that may interest you. See my recent post: https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/730/topics/364246-very-rare-opportunity-in-italian-village-3-houses-on-2-parcels

 Hey Darrin,  I just saw this. Does your deal still have the ability to be purchased? Are you still in touch with these sellers? I sold my other duplex in Italian Village and I've sold a duplex and another house since then but I have guys that are absolutely looking for projects right now in that neighborhood of downtown columbus if it's still available. PM me if possible would love to connect. 

Post: Sincere & Focus Investor from Capital Ohio

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Originally posted by @Jamal Moore:

The Midwest is in the middle of the country. Ohio is in the middle of the Midwest. Columbus is in the middle of Ohio. My community is in the middle of Columbus. Being from the nucleus we have every style of real estate there is to offer. Single family, multi family, apartments, brownstones, high rise, low rise, you name it, Columbus got it. There is a problem though. Problem is, we need more of it! More housing, more development, more retail, more opportunities for you and I. Our city is growing at the rate of 25,000+ per year, has been for several years, will be into the foreseeable future. I feel socially and economically charged to prepare an embracing housing market for those to come. Following suit is good, setting your own trends is great! Love seals all my deals!

 I'd agree in some aspects, but I do believe some areas are being overdeveloped for the demand within Central, OH. Then again every apartment complex is seeing virtually 100% occupancy that is new construction in Columbus. So you could be right. 

Post: Zero to 80 deals in 3 years in Columbus, Ohio

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Originally posted by @Sam Gergley:

Hi John, awesome job.

Im getting started in Columbus as well and have been involved in two successful deals in the downtown area.

I'd love to help/learn with your team if you need it.

Please contact me!

 What areas of downtown?

Post: Newbie from Cbus, Ohio

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Awesome! That was the first one I went to in August of 2014 when I move to Columbus. Make sure you grab some business cards and sit next to people you don't know. I think it is still run by a guy named Todd. I haven't been there in awhile. 

Post: New from Columbus, OH - Interested in Multi-Family homes

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Originally posted by @Brittany Menning:

Hello!  I am new to real estate investing and have set a goal for my first multi-family (owner occupied) by next summer 2017.

 Awesome Brittany! Best thing to do is to start looking at properties and driving past them. The most multi-family properties here in town are in 43201 (Parts of Italian Village, Parts of Victorian Village, OSU Campus), 43202 (OSU Campus and Old North), and 43206 (German Village, Schumacher Place, Merion Village, Nationwide Children's area). I'd encourage you to drive around in these areas as well as many others. Multifamily can be great for 1-4 units and you can get very favorable financing as an owner occupant. 

Good luck and welcome to the forums! I was just like you a few years ago buying my first multifamily property to live in. We are a local real estate team specializing in investment sales. Hope this helps you start!

Post: Columbus Ohio Real Estate Investors networking

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Originally posted by @Steve Gay:

To piggy back off the initial post... Do you believe REI meetings are the best place to meet potential investors? Any other ideas for initiating a good networking base in the Medina/Cleveland OH region?

All suggestions are welcome.

 Hey Steve, I can say I have never gone to a networking event and not left with a great connection. COREE, dublin landlord meetup, and there is one other that I forget the name but it is more of a coaching program that tries to sell you on it. COREE you can get your first one free. I'd encourage you to go to at least one a week around Columbus and central Ohio and judge for yourself. Don't sit around and not talk to anyone, reach out and talk with people who are sitting next to you, ask them about your business, bring a deal to analyze. You will do well! We have people that travel from all over for the COREE meeting. 

Post: CPAs in Columbus, Ohio

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Originally posted by @Christopher Powell II:

Hello,

I finally have my property set to rent December 1st, 2016 and now am in need of a CPA that knows real estate. Any suggestions?

 Nate I am sure is taking new clients. he just went out on his own. I use him and I'd say 50% of people in Columbus use him that are serious about real estate. I just met with him and because of what we setup previously really helped save on my taxes this year by being self employed. 

Post: New Member from Columbus

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Originally posted by @Nathan Enos:

Hi everyone! My name is Nathan Enos, I am a business student at The Ohio State University. Through BiggerPockets, I am looking to expand my network and to learn more about opportunities to invest in real estate while in my college years. Looking forward to interacting with everyone!

 Welcome! Are you looking at opportunities around the University area / downtown Columbus area or what areas?

Post: Owner finance deals to an entity instead of an individual

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Hi All, 

Has anyone ever tried an owner finance deal to a corporation instead of an individual? We have the goal to pick up 12 units next year in our business name and not the personal name and we will have the downpayment for about 8 of those units. We want to try our first creative deal in Columbus as well next year and I'm wondering about this specific part of it. Any advice would be much appreciated! 

Rob

Post: 36 unit in suburb of Columbus, Oh

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Originally posted by @Bill McCartney:

First, a little about me. My wife and I have had a few really good years with our business so I took the profits and spent the last year building a small portfolio of 21 units in Columbus and Newark, OH. We have quite a few SFH, a couple of duplexes, a quad and 2 weeks ago closed on my first 6 unit. Most of the units are C's but have a few B's. I didn't really know what I was doing so I started out using all cash thinking it was the safest route but recently started using both owner and bank financing to leverage the cash I have left. I have really only bought home run's. Earlier this year, I bought a foreclosure for 50K for cash, put 2K into it, then it appraised for 100K so right now I'm doing a cash out refi and getting back 70K. Oh, and it rents for $1500/mo!

That is how most of my portfolio is. Not including maintenance (which I mostly do myself and has been averaging just $175 per month) or capex, anything over 46% occupancy covers all of my costs. I read somewhere on here that not including management costs, not paying out for maintenance and not including capex and calling what you have left profit is not really profit. Got it but not sure what else to call it! My wife has been managing our business and now all of my time goes to real estate so if you want to call it a job, I'm ok with that. The longest I've had a unit sit vacant is 10 days. I take good care of the units and the word is out. I have a waiting list from current tenants' friends and relatives.

At any rate, it takes A LOT of time to find those deals. I've probably looked at close to 250 deals in the last year. And I bought up every one that fit the criteria I was looking for. The good deals have been much harder to come by in the last few months and I think finding 21 more units like the ones I have will take a lot of effort. 42 more would take forever.

Which finally brings me to the reason for my post. I told you what my strategy has been to date. This is quite a bit different and so I'm looking for some advice.

The off market deal:

36 units asking $825,000. 2 buildings with 18 units each. Built in the early 70's. All brick. Tenants pay all utilities. Radiant electric heat in floors in one building and gas furnaces in another. All single pane, older windows. Roofs 8 years old. Cast iron plumbing. One building is gas and as I understood it, is concrete floors and walls as firebarrier. I imagine this would be a pain when it comes to plumbing repairs. The other building is electric and is stick built.

23 1 BR units averaged @ $397 per month.

1 1 BR unit converted into laundry @ $0 per month.

12 2 BR units averaged @ $427 per month.

Gross $14,255

Expenses (owner claimed) $2000 - I will be managing the building myself and doing most of the maintenance.

Taxes $916

Insurance $566

Net $10,773

Mortgage $5536

Cash flow $5237

Owner is willing to carry financing. 10% down. 5 years at 6.5% then jumps to 8% in the hope I'll get traditional financing within that time.

The building is probably the lowest rents in the entire city (I wouldn't call it a town, but it's a pretty small city). The building manager told me this was because it wasn't a very nice area and attracting higher paying tenants was a problem. As it turns out, it has been poorly managed for quite a while. They have the lowest rent and attract the type of tenant that can only afford the lowest rent. Which in turn drives out the decent tenants so they have to further reduce rent to attract more low paying tenants. The good news is they have very few vacancies. The bad news is when I started asking around, most people with options would prefer not to live there because management "either doesn't see or doesn't want to see" what goes on there. The area is pretty nice, however. To me, I see that as opportunity. If I run out the drugs, low lifes and trouble makers and turn around the reputation, in a few years I can get rents to where they should be which would add about $4000 per month in revenue.

So there's the deal. This would be a big step for me. My gut says jump in with both feet like I always do. But there's a part of my brain that is making me nervous (or could be my friends and family who all work real jobs and don't have a penny saved that want to give me investment advice....) It would be nice because I'd have 36 units in one place. But that is putting a lot of eggs in one basket. And if I do this deal, it will probably be the last one I do for a while as it will eat up a lot of the cash I have left.

What do you guys think? Is this a deal you'd do? Thanks in advance!

 how is this deal a few months later Bill? Could you provide an update? I've had many clients that want to go big like this in a tertiary market outside of the main Central OH outer loop area and this would be a great case example. Have you raised rents?