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All Forum Posts by: Shane Pearlman

Shane Pearlman has started 33 posts and replied 213 times.

Post: Getting a loan with a shortsale on record

Shane PearlmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Las Palmas de Gran Canaria
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 255

Howdy folks, I could use some creative ideas...

A long time business associate of mine has been watching my growing real estate adventures of the last 8 years and has approached me to partner. He has a fair bit of cash, is a high income earner and I trust him implicitly and would gladly be in business with him. The challenge is a strategic personal residence short-sale on his record from just over three years ago. As I have talked to banks, no one will loan with him on record. Some of the commercial lenders have told me that if he is under 20%, they might consider ignoring his existence as long as I sign (which is fine). With his capital in play though, we were aiming for a more balanced partnership.

At this point I am looking for creative ways to structure the deal so that he ultimately ends up with a solid piece of the deal, but we are not blocked on the loan.

I personally just bought a 1.5M property 3 months ago, so I don't have enough cash at the moment to buy the next apartment alone, and then bring him in afterwards. That would be the obvious solution, but it won't work right now.

Other ideas? I was wondering about forming an LLC, having him loan the money to the LLC (with paper), then after the deal has closed and a bit of time has passed, paying off his loan with shares in the LLC. Is that viable / legal?

Anyone been successful in this situation?

Post: The Land Without Appreciation: Investing in Japan

Shane PearlmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Las Palmas de Gran Canaria
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 255

"In most countries, houses get more valuable over time. In Japan, a new buyer will often bulldoze the home. ... There is virtually no market for pre-owned homes in Japan, and 60 percent of all homes were built after 1980."

I just finished re-listening to a phenomenal podcast about the consumer real estate market in japan: http://freakonomics.com/2014/02/27/why-are-japanes... They explore a wide variety of reasons behind the apparent lack of appreciation of a single family homes value over time. Now, as far as I can tell, that doesn't mean that LAND doesn't gain value, just that the building hasn't.

What I find myself wondering is if this is true for multi-family rentals or commercial / retail or if those markets operate on an entirely different set of economic drivers closer to what I am familiar with? Do rentals appreciate in Japan?

-S

Post: Top Multi-Family Brokers in the Twin Cities (Minneapolis / St. Paul)

Shane PearlmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Las Palmas de Gran Canaria
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 255

Hi Folks,

My partners and I are beginning to do our research in multi-family / apartments (1-2M range) in the twin cities. I'm looking for recommendations on the brokers who have strong deal flow.

-S

Post: Why Boom Towns: The Ups & Downs of San Francisco

Shane PearlmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Las Palmas de Gran Canaria
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 255

‘Our city just at this time is dull except [for] Real Estate Speculations, upon which our people seem crazy. I drew papers of a piece of property today for my friend “Hood” which in 1846 cost him five dollars. It sold today [in 1853] for sixty thousand.'”

http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/01/13/san-francisco-...

It is really interesting to see the historical surge and retreat of real estate prices has been with San Francisco nearly as long as the tides. It does make me ask, why does SF have such a volatile profile, while many other cities plod along for decades with growth near the point of inflation?

What makes one city an equity market while another dominantly cashflow?

(P.S. don't turn this into a debate about the merits, I just want to understand the economic and social drivers that cause the different cycles)

Post: Websites

Shane PearlmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Las Palmas de Gran Canaria
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 255

I'm not familiar with Lead Propeller @Bruce Dalis but they fall into that typical Saas type solution (similar to Happy Tables for restaurants). The word "website" is about as broad a placeholder as the word "real estate". It basically covers anything and everything that displays content for a user to interact with via a screen (and sometimes beyond that). When you are looking for solution to drive new business, establish credibility with prospects, share case studies and examples, and encourage the right people to contact you, there are a couple of approaches (in order of labor involved):

The Landscape

1) Software as a service (example: wordpress.com, wix.com, squarespace.com ...)

These are companies that have pre-build and hosted solutions to make your life easy. They are all quite good and affordable. What they are not is extremely flexible.

2) Self hosted open-source solutions (WordPress, Joomla, Drupal...)

These are free software platforms that communities have created to make managing websites user friendly. You can host your own version cheaply on a server like dreamhost, wp-engine or digital ocean. The advantage of doing it yourself as opposed to a saas (see #1) is that you can customize they to do a number of unique things the saas providers may not offer

3) Custom builds

Up until 10 years ago, all websites were custom. Today, I wouldn't advise it in your situation. Too costly, and overkill.

Choosing:

I would suggest the following approach: make a list of all the things your website needs to be able to do. For example:

* Custom domain (http://www.parlayinvestments.com)

* Gallery

* Contact us form

...

Then explore the SaaS solutions to see if they do everything you need. If that works, then go with the one you like best. If you find yourself limited, then go with self hosted. I wouldn't waste my time trying to figure out how to do it yourself, just hire a freelancer (elance, microslancer...)

Hope that helps. Give it a vote and I'm happy to answer any further specifics.

Post: Apartment Insurance Policy vs. Landlord / Standard Rental Policy

Shane PearlmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Las Palmas de Gran Canaria
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 255

@Tom Dupree 

We've found that even when insurance companies use the same generic term, what is in the policies is different enough that it isn't apples to apples. @Jason Bott is spot on.

Under Residential

I was able to have my first duplex using a standard policy with a rental rider though state farm. We lived in one side with tenants on the other. Then we bought our second rental property, a single family home, and filled it with tenants and called state farm. She added it as a second residential policy. We have had 2 duplexes and 2 SFRs under residential insurance with specific additional riders to risks for our area.

Umbrella Policy

Umbrella policies are the cheapest vehicle for limiting liability I have yet to find. For $250 a year, we had 1M in coverage across all our properties. Until we bough a fourplex, and state farm said "too much". We were then encouraged to go get a commercial umbrella policy. Bigger dollar coverages (we have a few million), reasonable price, but its a one time deal. If you use the policy, it expires, then you get to re-apply and they decide if the want you. Our umbrella policy was only allowed to cover our home + one additional and I think our agent missed it as we did a it of horse trading.

Commercial Policy

When we tried to insure our first fourplex with state farm, they only offered us a commercial policy, stating that a residential policy was not an option. The price was not much more within context, but there was more coverage out of the box than my residential policies, which required additional riders. 

Post: Usage Up 50% : Water Abuse in Multi Family

Shane PearlmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Las Palmas de Gran Canaria
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 255

@Roy N. - I'm right there with you. I have my plumber going in this week to explore how the water lines play out (no basement but we do have a crawl space). The cheapest approach is to simply sub-meter on side (don't need both) and if there is any unexpected fluctuation, just go take a look. For $200, it seems I can get a wireless enabled one + install. My plumber guessed 1K, +/-500, so it is nice to see you confirm that is the right ballpark. I'll know more when he has gone through the building

@Jason Mak - have you done the research yet? I'm curious what kind of quotes you have received. I'm not sure it would be worth it for the duplexes, but if it lets us avoid the low income issue in our fourplexes, that could be a cost I'd absorb.

@Kyle Hipp - my jaw dropped when she quoted me. I even asked to speak to a manager, who told me the cost was likely to be on the high end. I asked her how much of it was fees Vs labor / parts, and she offered to research that, but I realized I don't care that much.

@Arlan Potter - as part of the comprehensive review of the property, we did the die tabs in the toilets to check for leaks. That is not the issue this time around.

Post: Hold or Sell

Shane PearlmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Las Palmas de Gran Canaria
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 255

Man that is a tough situation @Bryan Case 

Improve Your Rents or Sell The Properties

Are the properties in an area which has significant appreciation potential in a 5-7 year window? We've made the greatest increases in our net worth from short bursts of significant appreciation. While I would base a business plan on that entirely, it should be considered. 

That said, negative cashflow is unwise. How realistic are those hold costs? They could be a touch low if you consider CapEx and a are looking at a long term hold.

Can you quickly reposition the current properties to be profitable, for example increase rents with a light remodel? Are the rents at market? Can you convert a basement into another room? Are you by a high turnover / high demand place like a university where you can rent by the room (increase effort, but higher profits)? Essentially, have you tried everything to make the properties perform better?

I would look for opportunities to reposition the property or if that doesn't get you positive, then reposition the equity. A 1031 is a perfectly viable vehicle to move the equity into new properties, although you need to consider the transactional costs when making this decision. Also, the time limit can be super stressful (I've done two in the last 14 months and the second one nearly shortened my life span). You can easily find yourself with an equal or worse deal if you can't perform in the 45 day limit.

I'm personally a huge fan of @Doug McLeod approach, if you have the knowledge and time.

Do You Need Cashflow?

There is the argument of cashflow Vs equity investing, and we can get blue in the face discussing it. But before we bother, you have to ask yourself, what is the outcome you need from owning these properties. My father in law own a rental out right, and gets about 7% CoC returns. I've tried to encourage him to get a HELOC and reposition some of the equity into another property, but he is quite happy with his investment. They use the cash as part of their retirement lifestyle. "It is a higher return than any of the bonds we own, it is inflation protected, and if I happen to benefit with some appreciation, all the better." This year, the cashflow bought them a cruise in the carribean and a nice long stay in hawaii. If you don't need the cashflow now, then...

Owning Outright Vs Loans

I'm square in the loan camp. 

The Power of Leverage: Real estate mostly appreciates over time, either at the pace of inflation as they are a tangible asset, or a fair bit above it when demand outstrips availability. Let's take cashflow out for just a second (we'll get there). If you buy 3 houses cash for 100k and they go up 5%, you just increased your net worth by 5k. If you buy two four-plexes for 320k with 100k invested, and they go up 5%, your net work just went up 16k. It is a 3x difference due to the leverage.  

Epic Rates: I LOVE that I can buy real estate on credit in the united states. There are so few investment vehicles which allow that, and many countries which won't even offer loans on properties. Right now, interest rates are at a retarded historical low. I can lock down capital at 4%, with near certainty that within 5 years, inflation will strike and rates + rates will rise significantly. If you could borrow money at 4% and with careful planning know with high certainty you could get a 10% return, how much would you borrow? I will take all that I can (safely).

Using math: IRR

If you want to take a lot of the arguments out of this, just calculate the internal rate of return (IRR) for each situation. It will help balance equity growth, cashflow, purchase and sales cost, and time in one equation. It is a doozie, but worth the time. BP has some super nice articles which will walk you through the process: http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2010/09/02...

Good luck buddy.

Post: Housing Market vs Rents

Shane PearlmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Las Palmas de Gran Canaria
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 255

That is such a great question @Ricardo S..

As best as I can tell from both personal and past research, the answer is that they may have some loose correlation, but they are ultimately unrelated. I found a nice graph recently charting the change in avg home price VS the change in rents. This is for an entire country, so take it with a grain of salt, but the relationship is nicely displayed.

Rental prices and Ownership prices are driven by supply (new builds, turnover) and demand (immigration, affordability, gentrification). Multifamily property values are deeply rooted in rent value, which makes sense considering the consumer is an investor buying an asset with an expectation of returns. Single family though shares a different mix of consumer, with different needs, requirements and expectations. While investors do engage in the SFR space, they don't seem to be the dominant player. Affordability for a home buyer is quite different from the perspective of an investor and as such creates a very different market.

Rent prices themselves go up for a variety of reason. Some economic like inflation : if everyones insurance and utilities go up 30%, it is only a matter of time until it hits rents. Demand is clear, and an influx of renters drives up rents. An influx of renters though probably won't affect SF home prices all that much. 

Curious if anyone has noticed specific causal relationships at the micro level.

Post: NorCal Coastal Meetup (Santa Cruz to Monterey) - Friday 1/16/2015

Shane PearlmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Las Palmas de Gran Canaria
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 255

Alright! One week to go. The location is locked down and they are holding a table for us. It might be absurdly warm this week, but bring a coat just in case the temp drops and the conversation spills outside. Remember this is more of a drinking than eating place ( http://www.bthirty.com). Bring some cash so we can support the success of a new local business!

I can't wait to meet the new folks, and hang out with some friends. Feel free to mention it on facebook or other places so we can reach into the local community!

Poking a few of you who haven't replied.  

@Eileen Burke Woodward , @Brad Gustafson , @Uuri Koh , @Eric Mun

@Marilynn Woodcock, @Marcie Montis , @Erle Mcdonald , @Kenny Boyd

@Dylan M, @Steffen Vulpius@Denise D , @Daniel Shepstone , @DanrKelly,

@Jacob Yufa @mariaej @Kenny Boyd @Judy Jackson