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All Forum Posts by: Stacy Raskin

Stacy Raskin has started 153 posts and replied 811 times.

Post: DCRS Loans and How they Work?

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DSCR loans won't use your income to underwrite the loan.

DSCR loans are based off of down payment, credit score and either actual or market rents so it helps to supercharge an investor's real estate goals and net worth.

Here's a bit more in detail about how rates are calculated for DSCR loans:

1. Credit score- the higher the best. 760+ generally gets best pricing for investment property loans with most lenders

2. Loan to value ratio: The higher the loan to value ratio (LTV) is, pricing takes a hit. So your pricing will be higher for a 80% LTV loan than for a 60% LTV loan.

3. Prepayment penalties- usually 1-5 year terms. The shorter the prepayment term has an impact on increasing the rate.

4. Are you cash flowing the property? More on how that is calculated below. Is your DSCR ratio greater than 1-meaning are you cash flowing (according to the lender's criteria of mortgage, property taxes and insurance (and HOA) if applicable). Many lenders will not do a DSCR loan unless cash flowing. If they will do a loan with less than 1, the pricing takes a hit. This criteria is for 1-4 and 5-8 unit programs.

I've included an example below to help illustrate this.

So different lenders have different rates (which do vary even for DSCR loans) but these are factors they all consider.

See example below:

DSCR < 1

Principal + Interest = $1,700

Taxes = $350, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $50

Total PITIA = $2200

Rent = $2000

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2000/2200 = 0.91

Since the DSCR is 0.91, we know the expenses are greater than the income of the property.

DSCR >1

Principal + Interest = $1,500

Taxes = $250, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $25

Total PITIA = $1875 Rent = $2300

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2300/1875 = 1.23

DSCR lenders generally let you vest either individually or as an LLC. It's a great way to increase your net worth and these loans can also be used to pull cash out of a property as it appreciates allowing you to reinvest money into new deals.

Post: Investment house loan in company name

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You can get a non agency or a DSCR loan under your LLC name.

Some DSCR lenders will go down to a $75K value and a $50K loan amount. It's the same work to do a $55K loan as a $500K loan so the fees will be higher due to the loan amount but will still be much lower than what a lender or broker gets paid on a higher loan amount.

DSCR loans won't use your income to underwrite the loan.

DSCR loans are based off of down payment, credit score and either actual or market rents so it helps to supercharge an investor's real estate goals and net worth.

Here's a bit more in detail about how rates are calculated for DSCR loans:

1. Credit score- the higher the best. 760+ generally gets best pricing for investment property loans with most lenders

2. Loan to value ratio: The higher the loan to value ratio (LTV) is, pricing takes a hit. So your pricing will be higher for a 80% LTV loan than for a 60% LTV loan.

3. Prepayment penalties- usually 1-5 year terms. The shorter the prepayment term has an impact on increasing the rate.

4. Are you cash flowing the property? More on how that is calculated below. Is your DSCR ratio greater than 1-meaning are you cash flowing (according to the lender's criteria of mortgage, property taxes and insurance (and HOA) if applicable). Many lenders will not do a DSCR loan unless cash flowing. If they will do a loan with less than 1, the pricing takes a hit. This criteria is for 1-4 and 5-8 unit programs.

I've included an example below to help illustrate this.

So different lenders have different rates (which do vary even for DSCR loans) but these are factors they all consider.

See example below:

DSCR < 1

Principal + Interest = $1,700

Taxes = $350, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $50

Total PITIA = $2200

Rent = $2000

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2000/2200 = 0.91

Since the DSCR is 0.91, we know the expenses are greater than the income of the property.

DSCR >1

Principal + Interest = $1,500

Taxes = $250, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $25

Total PITIA = $1875 Rent = $2300

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2300/1875 = 1.23

DSCR lenders generally let you vest either individually or as an LLC. It's a great way to increase your net worth and these loans can also be used to pull cash out of a property as it appreciates allowing you to reinvest money into new deals.

Post: 4 unit multifamily deal

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Quote from @Dan H.:
Quote from @Stacy Raskin:

L.A. can be a good market for appreciation long term but there are issues with renters rights which is great for renters and not great for landlords. I've lived and worked in the L.A. market for over twenty years and I would seriously consider investing elsewhere if I was going to be subject to L.A. city's rent control. There are other cities that have less severe rent control of default to CA / state wide guidelines but something to consider.

Also, I've worked with clients who built multiple ADUs on a multifamily and when they refinance, they can't get the value for the ADUs so something to consider if you ever want to refinance. From talking with lender account executives, the most they will refinance and give value to is a single family residence with one ADU.

I know investors who bought a triplex for $197K in East Hollywood in 1997 that's now valued for $1.8M and they have cashed out multiple times to buy more investment properties so there's value here. It's important to consider the different laws and how comfortable you are with those regulations. 

 >I've worked with clients who built multiple ADUs on a multifamily and when they refinance, they can't get the value for the ADUs so something to consider if you ever want to refinance. From talking with lender account executives, the most they will refinance and give value to is a single family residence with one ADU.

True for non-commercial residential.  However, @Jon Schwartz proposes adding units to make commercial residential and finance as such (DSCR) where value will be based on cap rate and NOI. If the ADUs can be built for less than value dictated by NOI and cap rate, it can be profitable but it is work. This approaches removes the appraiser and their often poor ADU valuations from the equation.

Good luck


 This is based on lender guidelines not what an appraiser decides to do. If you know of any lenders who can reliably fund who do single family units or multifamily with multiple ADUS and give them the value and the rents on the appraisal let me know. I haven't found any. 

Also, I've learned the hard way of believing a lender can do something too cheap or too unusual even if that say they can, from having them deciding they won't fund at the last minute. Non-owner occupy loans don't have the same regulations as owner occupy loans and some lenders can and will change terms or rates at any time- even on the day of funding. Important for borrowers to go with experienced reputable investment property lenders- not ones that will do it for the lowest rate or whatever information originally quoted as sometimes isn't cheap if the lender can't fund. I've learned if too good to be true for lending rates and guidelines, probably is. 

Post: 4 unit multifamily deal

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L.A. can be a good market for appreciation long term but there are issues with renters rights which is great for renters and not great for landlords. I've lived and worked in the L.A. market for over twenty years and I would seriously consider investing elsewhere if I was going to be subject to L.A. city's rent control. There are other cities that have less severe rent control of default to CA / state wide guidelines but something to consider.

Also, I've worked with clients who built multiple ADUs on a multifamily and when they refinance, they can't get the value for the ADUs so something to consider if you ever want to refinance. From talking with lender account executives, the most they will refinance and give value to is a single family residence with one ADU.

I know investors who bought a triplex for $197K in East Hollywood in 1997 that's now valued for $1.8M and they have cashed out multiple times to buy more investment properties so there's value here. It's important to consider the different laws and how comfortable you are with those regulations. 

Post: Is it possible to obtain a hard money loan with no money down???

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Best I've seen for a hard money loan is 10% down of the purchase price with 100% of the rehab covered depending on the borrower profile. 

Post: Investment Loans Under $75,000

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Minimum DSCR loans I've seen are $50K. Fees will be very high relative to loan amount.

It's the same work to do a $50K loan as a $500K loan so the fees will be higher due to the loan amount but will still be much lower than what a lender or broker gets paid on a higher loan amount.

DSCR loans won't use your income to underwrite the loan.

DSCR loans are based off of down payment, credit score and either actual or market rents so it helps to supercharge an investor's real estate goals and net worth.

Here's a bit more in detail about how rates are calculated for DSCR loans:

1. Credit score- the higher the best. 760+ generally gets best pricing for investment property loans with most lenders

2. Loan to value ratio: The higher the loan to value ratio (LTV) is, pricing takes a hit. So your pricing will be higher for a 80% LTV loan than for a 60% LTV loan.

3. Prepayment penalties- usually 1-5 year terms. The shorter the prepayment term has an impact on increasing the rate.

4. Are you cash flowing the property? More on how that is calculated below. Is your DSCR ratio greater than 1-meaning are you cash flowing (according to the lender's criteria of mortgage, property taxes and insurance (and HOA) if applicable). Many lenders will not do a DSCR loan unless cash flowing. If they will do a loan with less than 1, the pricing takes a hit. This criteria is for 1-4 and 5-8 unit programs.

I've included an example below to help illustrate this.

So different lenders have different rates (which do vary even for DSCR loans) but these are factors they all consider.

See example below:

DSCR < 1

Principal + Interest = $1,700

Taxes = $350, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $50

Total PITIA = $2200

Rent = $2000

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2000/2200 = 0.91

Since the DSCR is 0.91, we know the expenses are greater than the income of the property.

DSCR >1

Principal + Interest = $1,500

Taxes = $250, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $25

Total PITIA = $1875 Rent = $2300

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2300/1875 = 1.23

DSCR lenders generally let you vest either individually or as an LLC. It's a great way to increase your net worth and these loans can also be used to pull cash out of a property as it appreciates allowing you to reinvest money into new deals.

Post: Our 3rd Investment Property - Which Exit strategy?

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There are less lenders who will do a cash out refinance if you want to use the new appraisal and if they do, they will charge a higher rate. There are lenders that will do a cash out refinance based on your purchase price and receipts at 3 months. You will get the most cash out options with the best rates and guidelines at the six month mark from when the title was recorded if you want to use the new appraised value. 

Also, important to work with a mortgage broker or lender who specializes in DSCR programs and who will do them with a DSCR 1 ratio.

On another note, from experience, some lenders will do anything to get your business just to change the terms when they figure you're in too deep. I've been told that a loan would close at a rate that sounded pretty good from a lender, just to be strung along and to have the loan terms change last minute. Legally, the lender can change terms at any time for DSCR loans (it's not possible to drastically change terms for residential loans without a penalty for the lender) so it's very important who you work with on DSCR loans.

In case helpful, more details on DSCR loans:

DSCR loans are based off of down payment, credit score and either actual or market rents so it helps to supercharge an investor's real estate goals and net worth. DSCR loans won't use your income to underwrite the loan.

Here's a bit more in detail about how rates are calculated for DSCR loans:

1. Credit score- the higher the best. 760+ generally gets best pricing for investment property loans with most lenders

2. Loan to value ratio: The higher the loan to value ratio (LTV) is, pricing takes a hit. So your pricing will be higher for a 80% LTV loan than for a 60% LTV loan.

3. Prepayment penalties- usually 1-5 year terms. The shorter the prepayment term has an impact on increasing the rate.

4. Are you cash flowing the property? More on how that is calculated below. Is your DSCR ratio greater than 1-meaning are you cash flowing (according to the lender's criteria of mortgage, property taxes and insurance (and HOA) if applicable). Many lenders will not do a DSCR loan unless cash flowing. If they will do a loan with less than 1, the pricing takes a hit. This criteria is for 1-4 and 5-8 unit programs.

I've included an example below to help illustrate this.

So different lenders have different rates (which do vary even for DSCR loans) but these are factors they all consider.

See example below:

DSCR < 1

Principal + Interest = $1,700

Taxes = $350, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $50

Total PITIA = $2200

Rent = $2000

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2000/2200 = 0.91

Since the DSCR is 0.91, we know the expenses are greater than the income of the property.

DSCR >1

Principal + Interest = $1,500

Taxes = $250, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $25

Total PITIA = $1875 Rent = $2300

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2300/1875 = 1.23

DSCR lenders generally let you vest either individually or as an LLC. It's a great way to increase your net worth and these loans can also be used to pull cash out of a property as it appreciates allowing you to reinvest money into new deals.

Post: DSCR Brokers/Lenders - 4 unit multifamily to fund.

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Some helpful info on knowing how DSCR rates and guidelines broadly work:

DSCR loans won't use your income to underwrite the loan. DSCR loans are based off of down payment, credit score and either actual or market rents so it helps to supercharge an investor's real estate goals and net worth.

Here's a bit more in detail about how rates are calculated for DSCR loans:

1. Credit score- the higher the best. 760+ generally gets best pricing for investment property loans with most lenders

2. Loan to value ratio: The higher the loan to value ratio (LTV) is, pricing takes a hit. So your pricing will be higher for a 80% LTV loan than for a 60% LTV loan.

3. Prepayment penalties- usually 1-5 year terms. The shorter the prepayment term has an impact on increasing the rate.

4. Are you cash flowing the property? More on how that is calculated below. Is your DSCR ratio greater than 1-meaning are you cash flowing (according to the lender's criteria of mortgage, property taxes and insurance (and HOA) if applicable). Many lenders will not do a DSCR loan unless cash flowing. If they will do a loan with less than 1, the pricing takes a hit. This criteria is for 1-4 and 5-8 unit programs.

I've included an example below to help illustrate this.

So different lenders have different rates (which do vary even for DSCR loans) but these are factors they all consider.

See example below:

DSCR < 1

Principal + Interest = $1,700

Taxes = $350, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $50

Total PITIA = $2200

Rent = $2000

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2000/2200 = 0.91

Since the DSCR is 0.91, we know the expenses are greater than the income of the property.

DSCR >1

Principal + Interest = $1,500

Taxes = $250, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $25

Total PITIA = $1875 Rent = $2300

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2300/1875 = 1.23

DSCR lenders generally let you vest either individually or as an LLC. It's a great way to increase your net worth and these loans can also be used to pull cash out of a property as it appreciates allowing you to reinvest money into new deals.

Post: Looking for DSCR lending

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You will have less lending options if you don't own a primary and this is not your first investment property but there are lending options out there. DSCR lenders have different guidelines depending on the lender as they sell their loans on the back end to replenish their cash for new loans to different investors who have varying criteria as they set it. You will have a lot more options for loan amounts over $100K. It's more important to work with a lender or a broker that specializes in DSCR loans. The location isn't as important as most lenders work in different states.

In case helpful, more info on DSCR loans: DSCR loans won't use your income to underwrite the loan.

DSCR loans are based off of down payment, credit score and either actual or market rents so it helps to supercharge an investor's real estate goals and net worth.

Here's a bit more in detail about how rates are calculated for DSCR loans:

1. Credit score- the higher the best. 760+ generally gets best pricing for investment property loans with most lenders

2. Loan to value ratio: The higher the loan to value ratio (LTV) is, pricing takes a hit. So your pricing will be higher for a 80% LTV loan than for a 60% LTV loan.

3. Prepayment penalties- usually 1-5 year terms. The shorter the prepayment term has an impact on increasing the rate.

4. Are you cash flowing the property? More on how that is calculated below. Is your DSCR ratio greater than 1-meaning are you cash flowing (according to the lender's criteria of mortgage, property taxes and insurance (and HOA) if applicable). Many lenders will not do a DSCR loan unless cash flowing. If they will do a loan with less than 1, the pricing takes a hit. This criteria is for 1-4 and 5-8 unit programs.

I've included an example below to help illustrate this.

So different lenders have different rates (which do vary even for DSCR loans) but these are factors they all consider.

See example below:

DSCR < 1

Principal + Interest = $1,700

Taxes = $350, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $50

Total PITIA = $2200

Rent = $2000

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2000/2200 = 0.91

Since the DSCR is 0.91, we know the expenses are greater than the income of the property.

DSCR >1

Principal + Interest = $1,500

Taxes = $250, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $25

Total PITIA = $1875 Rent = $2300

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2300/1875 = 1.23

DSCR lenders generally let you vest either individually or as an LLC. It's a great way to increase your net worth and these loans can also be used to pull cash out of a property as it appreciates allowing you to reinvest money into new deals.

Post: Type of Loans Available

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Sure- you're welcome. Sounds good.