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All Forum Posts by: Stephanie P.

Stephanie P. has started 186 posts and replied 4623 times.

Post: info about DSCR Loan

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Quote from @Tychua G.:

@Stephanie P.What are the typical loan sizes for each tier that have point adjustments?


 Little loans get charged a bit more.  Usually below 125K, we charge an extra point.  The same amount of work goes into a little loan as a big loan, but you just make a lot less.

Post: info about DSCR Loan

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Quote from @Kelly Williams:

I would like to purchase a new investment property and use it as AIRBNB to get profit. Based on my employment history I am only able to pull DSCR loan and I am seeking assistance in getting the right lender and doing investment the right way!
Only what's the disadvantages on DSCR loan ? 
What to avoid during pulling DSCR loan? 
How to find a decent DSCR lender?
I am ferly new in this market and would like to learn the ins and outs of investing in real state. I greatly appreciate all the advice and recommendation....

DSCR loans are alive and well; not as well as they were in February of 2022, but they still close.
With the rise of conventional financing, the rates are higher, but the disparity isn't that bad.
Always, always, always use conventional financing instead of DSCR until you can't.  Then DSCR is your next best friend (says the DSCR broker).
Know investing is a math problem and be ready to walk away if the math doesn't work out in your favor.
What to avoid?
Avoid big purchases and the normal things that you would avoid with conventional financing.
Avoid any broker that says you can live in a property financed by a DSCR loan and avoid rates that are too good to be true because they are.
Make sure you have enough cash for 6 months of payment reserves, 25% down payment and figure on paying around 2 points depending on the loan size.  There  are other closing costs, so factor that in.

Post: Does it get easier to deny people?

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Quote from @Kelly N.:

We've always used a property management company for our other rental, but we recently purchased a second rental home close to ours and I thought we'd save some money by managing it ourselves. Now I know what I was paying them for! Our first applicant gave us a sob story and I made a rookie mistake by allowing her to view the property before doing an application screening. She assured me she had enough income for the rental, but it turns out she was counting child support that doesn't exist yet (she says she needs to get out of her current living arrangement before filing for divorce) and SNAP funds from an application that's in process. 

I know I wouldn't be doing her any favors by leasing to her when she can't afford it. Does it get easier to say no? Or should I just count on sleepless nights due to guilt over not being willing to give people a chance?


 One of the easiest ways to get sued for housing discrimination is by having standards and then not sticking to them because of a sob story.  You MUST be consistent with your standards;  guilty feelings, SNAP funds and divorce aside.  

Get a professional Property Manager (not a relative or a friend) and don't look back.

Post: Sell or keep as short term rental

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Quote from @Kyna Ngo:

Hi! We need some advice. We have a place in Palm Springs CA which has acquired a lot of equity.  I can’t decide if we should sell, pay off some debts and invest elsewhere or renovate and keep as short term rental. I am also a high income earner so I am trying to see what’s overall the best. It’s currently a long term rental now. 
Should I consult a tax advisor? 

Any advice appreciated! 

Yes, consult a tax advisor.
I would sell everything I have if it was in California.  If it's an investment property, I'd take the equity and invest it in middle market areas that are landlord friendly.  There are some great properties in Pittsburgh, Kansas City and lots of places in Ohio. Think about a solid college town that you like and rent to students each year (get the parents to co-sign).

Post: Finance Options to buy a 4-plex

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Quote from @Chi Sastry:

Hi BP- 


buying my 3rd multi-unit property. 


I’m putting a contract on a 4plex 

I’d like to understand which financing option is better:

Option 1 - Residential loan- 7.99%, 30 yrs, 25% down. 3 points at closing plus 2% closing cost.  monthly Mortgage is ~ 1800  Under my name. 


Option 2- Commercial loan. 7.75%, 20yrs, 20% down. 5 year balloon payment.  1% for closing. No points. 
monhtly mortgage is ~ 2100. Under LLC

Option 2 is 13K less for closing. But also lower cash flow every month. 


Any other suggestions on how to analyze the deal. I’d like to use the 13k to buy another property. But don’t like the 5/20 or the lower cash flow.

Thanks!!


 It all depends on your goal.  If you want cash flow, go for the 30 year.  If the goal is to get it paid down quickly, go 20.  The difference in rate is nominal and actually, the difference in fees is also over time.

If as you say, "you don't like the 5/20", I think you answered the question already.

Post: DSCR Lender Recommendations

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Quote from @Bridget Vlakancic:

Looking for any recommendations on DSCR Loans that will for sure close. Looks like a lot of feedback says they are approved only to not close in the end. Thanks in advance!


Many DSCR loans don't close because the rents are too low, the taxes are too high or the principal and interest payment is too high.

Having said that, many DSCR brokers try to force a square peg in a round hole by trying to send a DSCR loan with a small loan amount to a lender that requires a 125K minimum loan amount or because they don't explain the length of the prepay. To the point many of the posts above have made, experience matters. When explaining the process to the borrowers, we try to explain it in terms that just about everyone understands. The conversation goes something like this:

"Okay Mr. Jones.  I'm going to ask you a bunch of questions about the property, your credit (and that of any partners), available cash and what you're expecting when all is said and done.  Do you ever watch The Price is Right? (everyone says yes).  So you've seen the game Plinko right?  (everyone says yes).  Your loan is tailored to your specific needs sort of like dropping all of your information in at the top of the Plinko board. With every answer, you hit a peg and once you've hit a bunch of pegs and you're at the bottom of the board, we know exactly where to send your loan, what the rate range is going to be, the origination fees, lender fees and any quirks for the lender we're going to send your loan to."

By doing this and asking a lot of pertinent questions up front, we don't waste time on loans that won't close, we give the borrower realistic expectations and we eliminate most surprises.  Surprises are bad.

Hope that helps

Stephanie

Post: Lending Options for First Time Rental Property Investor

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Quote from @Christian Koepnick:

New to the Property Investment space but learning more every day. I am looking for any positive and negative experiences, or preferences regarding financing first property. Does DSCR Loan make sense or standard mortgage financing? Curious on everyone's thoughts and experiences. Thanks!


 Always exhaust your conventional financing first.

Post: New investor financing

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Quote from @Stephanie P.:

 Probably not what you want to hear, but I wouldn't buy where you're looking or I would do a lot more research to find lower priced properties.  The main reason is you're going to be way over leveraged on your primary residence (since you're debt ratio will be 50% of your gross earnings) and that doesn't make for a happy marriage considering it's your "forever" home and stress from debt is a killer.

Try this: Go to some REIA's and Meet ups in your area. Get a better feel for what's really out there. Find a hard money lender and meet investors that use him/her and then find a property that needs a little rehab that you can flip. Do it. Don't hold it, but cash it in. Then do it again. Once you do that a couple of times and you made money, your wife will be fully vested and you can use the equity line with confidence for multi family properties or more flips where you're the bank.

 Fortunately I have my wifes full support to leverage our house as long as the numbers all make sense. I hear what you are saying and I am totally open to all options. I just want my foot in the door and to start this journey. I am also not afraid of risk, I see it as opportunity as long as it is taken carefully and calculated. We currently have about 100k in equity and I would like to use about half of that as funding for our first investment. 

One option we are looking at after some advice from above is the DSCR loan. I have found a couple properties that may be good candidates for this option and even with current rates that I was quoted from my lender, would cash flow. Im not banking on rates coming down soon but if and when they do that will only help. However, when I factor in my monthly HELOC payments of about 500$ a month of IO it puts us in a negative cash flow of around 200$ With my current job I can support that amount and have the HELOC paid off in 3 years which brings us to a positive cash flow. Maybe by then, rates will have come down enough we can refi and be sitting in a good place with solid monthly cashflow.

The other option I am looking at, is as you suggested finding a good rehab deal and get Hard money to finance the purchase. I will have to shop around for other lenders because the one I spoke with wanted 20% down AND only covered the purchase leaving us on the hook for rehab funding. That brings me back to leveraging my equity to pay for the rehab. The risk I see with this is if we see a further decline in new listing prices and rates have still not come down, we will be holding a big bag that is burning a hole in our pockets quickly and no cash flow to cover any expenses. I know this is all a big IF but I like to look at tail risk and be prepared for a worst-case scenario l especially in our current environment.


Most HML's will go provide a loan that covers 80% of the acquisition and 100% of the rehab as long as those numbers don't exceed 70% of the total ARV (after repair value). Definitely shop around.

You are under capitalized for a DSCR loan. If you only have 50K to work with (half of the 100K in equity) Option 2 is much better. Considering you are looking at 250K properties (if you can find one that is turn key in an area that's suitable), the down payment is all you have. You'll need 6 months of reserves plus closing costs.

Post: Question on DSCR option

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Quote from @Ashish Wa:

Hello Folks

I may need DSCR loan for a new construction with the DSCR being under 1. Whats the ongoing rate with this scenario and fees?


There are so many cash flowing properties in Atlanta, why in the world would you buy this one?  If I were you, I'd take a second look at the numbers and if they're remotely close to what you're posting, walk away.  If you're thinking this property will have instant equity because it's a new construction, don't forget to consider the cost to sell and recoup the equity with a 5% prepayment penalty.

This is not smart money.  Use math; it's your friend.

I wish you the best and mean no harm, but I just don't see it.

Stephanie

Post: New investor financing

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Quote from @Justin Hanson:

I currently have a house under a mortgage and am having a very difficult time finding a way to finance an investment property. There is no chance we can qualify for conventional in our area as anything over 200k will put us over a .5 debt to income ratio. And here in Oregon most locations start out at 250k for a rehab project and 300k for a low end turn key. 

We have found one private lender who maybe would work for a rehab flip project but charging 1% interst only per month and only financing the house means we have to get creative for financing the rehab. I currently have some equity in our home I could tap into but was planning on using that to cover the required 20% down payment for this lender and that would leave only about half of our equity to work with on financing the rehab. 

Hoping to get some insight on other options I can look into other than waiting another year or 2 to save some money for a bigger down payment for conventional lending. 


 Probably not what you want to hear, but I wouldn't buy where you're looking or I would do a lot more research to find lower priced properties.  The main reason is you're going to be way over leveraged on your primary residence (since you're debt ratio will be 50% of your gross earnings) and that doesn't make for a happy marriage considering it's your "forever" home and stress from debt is a killer.

Try this: Go to some REIA's and Meet ups in your area. Get a better feel for what's really out there. Find a hard money lender and meet investors that use him/her and then find a property that needs a little rehab that you can flip. Do it. Don't hold it, but cash it in. Then do it again. Once you do that a couple of times and you made money, your wife will be fully vested and you can use the equity line with confidence for multi family properties or more flips where you're the bank.