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All Forum Posts by: David Wurzel

David Wurzel has started 40 posts and replied 241 times.

Post: COLD CALLING RESULTS

David WurzelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 132

@Shawn Crawley

@Account Closed

Please see above

Post: COLD CALLING RESULTS

David WurzelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 132

Post: COLD CALLING RESULTS

David WurzelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 132

This is from a fascinating study I found online conducted by Baylor University in conjunction with Keller Williams.  The agents are Real Estate Agents:

Over the course of a two-week period in November 2011, 50 participating agents made 6,264 phone-based cold calls, collectively. Of the 6,264 cold calls placed, 28% were answered, 55% were not answered, and 17% were non-working numbers.

While 6,264 calls were placed over the seven-day period, 72% were very quick calls due to nonanswers and non-working phone numbers. Accounting for non-answers and non-working numbers becomes the tedious part of working true cold calling lists. However, the 28% of calls that were completed (1,774) were productive calls.

Out of the 1,774 calls that were answered, agents were able to set a total of 19 appointments with prospective clients, and 11 referrals were received. Agents were asked to call back at a later time by 132 prospective clients, and 1,612 of the callees were not interested in the offering or refused additional information.

What Is My Potential ROI? A Baseline for Comparison

Realistically, the average agent will not be willing to make 6,264 cold calls to achieve outcomes similar to this study. So, the question becomes, “What must I do to achieve a positive return from my cold calling efforts?” 

If we assume that the goal of cold calling is to either set an appointment or receive a referral, then the data help to tell a story of what Return on Investment (ROI) agents might realistically expect to achieve from cold calling.

The study reveals that for every 330 calls made, approximately one appointment was set (a 330:1 call-to-appointment ratio). More relevant to our desired cold calling goal, for every 209 calls made, one appointment was set or referral was received (a 209:1 call-to-appointment-or-referral ratio). 

If we consider that the study indicated 72% of calls made were bad (non-answers or nonworking numbers), then approximately 150 of every 209 calls will be bad. 

Assuming that placing a bad call takes about 1 minute per call (on average), then 150 minutes (or 2.5 hours) will be spent handling bad calls. Consider also that the study indicated 28% of calls made were answered. 

Consequently, 59 of every 209 calls will be answered. If we assume that an answered call takes approximately 5 minutes to complete (on average), then 5 hours will be spent handling answered calls. 

Collectively, we see that it will take an investment of approximately 7.5 hours to complete 209 calls, leading to a return of one appointment or referral. If calls are broken-out across one workweek, agents can expect to make 1.5 hours worth of calls each day for 5 days to secure one appointment or receive one referral – a positive cold calling outcome. 7.5 hours invested to achieve 1 qualified appointment or referral is a relatively strong ROI.

Post: COLD CALLING RESULTS

David WurzelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 132

What's the largest list you ever used to cold call and what were the results?

Post: cold calling effectiveness

David WurzelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 132

@Account Closed

Just a heads up guys but make sure you're using best practices when making calls.

1.  ALWAYS run the phone numbers through the Federal Do Not Call registry AND the state registry.  Fines are anywhere from $16,000 per call Federally and $10,000 per call locally.

2.  The FCC bans text messages sent to mobile phones using an auto dialer unless the consumer has given permission to receive the message even if the mobile number is not on any Federal or State Do Not Call list.  

3.  Robocalls leaving a message on Voice Mail are also prohibited.

There has already been an uptick in attorneys advertising for these type of cases since they are so easy to prove.  This is the #1 consumer complaint across the nation.  So, attorneys see demand to take these cases on.

Post: Virtual assistants for lead generation

David WurzelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 132

@Shawn Crawley

Hi!  I just want to probe a little bit more (not much though.)  I was just wondering how your VAs introduce themself?  i.e.

"Good Afternoon, my name is _______ and I am calling:

a.  on behalf of Shawn Crawley

b.  to see if you have a property to sell

c.  other

How many calls have you found your VAs can make in an hour on average, how many hours per week do they work at it, and how many leads are they finding per week?

Thanks! Just trying to figure out if a VA for cold calling is worth it. P.S. What company do you use?

Post: Automated Seller Follow Up

David WurzelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 132

@Will F.

"I've got several VAs working on it too that I'm juggling and just throwing money at. I'm having issues with VAs capabilities, training etc"

What company were you using?  Did you determine where the problem was?  How were the VAs being utilized?  Thanks in advance.  I am trying to determine if VAs are the way to go for cold calling and what issues others have come across.  

Post: VA's to make cold calls

David WurzelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 132

@Brandon Purdeu

Just curious as to what processes you have in place to make sure the VA is making "x" amount of calls. Being hourly and a VA I would, me personally, be wary of the amount of work being done. But, if I could somehow quantify it and confirm then I would be all in. As Reagan said, "Trust But Verify". LOL

Post: Can a tenant refuse a scheduled entry?

David WurzelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 132

@Roger S.

Simply evict.  What's done to the property is done.  If you have that much of an emotional attachment to the property maybe rethink your business model.

Post: OWNER FINANCE AND SUBJECT TO STRATEGY

David WurzelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 132

@Kenneth Anderson

@Account Closed

Thank you both for such great advice!  I'm certainly going to put it to use.