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Post: Looking for first multi-family investment

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There is a ton of new product being built in that area. I expect rents to be under pressure.
Post: 💡 How to Calculate Cap Rate (Made Simple)

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Cap Rate is very important in commercial real estate because properties are valued based on the income approach. Net Operating Income divided by the prevailing cap rate gives you an estimated value of the property.
In the example you have, the dollar amounts are so low, it appears you are applying it to single family. As you know, valuation in single family are based on comps. Therefore cap rate has no meaningful purpose in single family.
I've seen people on this forum brag about their single family cap rate. Then you find out they paid $50K more than appraised value for the property. Unless they hold a very long time, they are going to lose money.
In single family, focusing on cap rate is dangerous and dumb.
Post: Struggling to get into multi-family financing with owner-occupancy, is it possible?

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Does the commercial loan require you to send a rent roll from time to time?
If not, how is the lender going to know if you moved into one of the units?
Honestly, they probably won't care if the mortgage is getting paid. If you are worried, check the mortgage for the clause that specifies remedies.
Post: Where does equity go?

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Let's start over.
Let's say you have house worth $200K, with no mortgage, and did an 80% cash-out refi. Ignoring closing costs, you have converted $160K of equity into cash. The remaining $40K of equity is still in the house. If you sold the house, ignoring closing costs, you would get the remaining $40K as cash.
Post: We like investing in real estate more than 401(k)s.

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I 100% agree, and would add one thing.
You really can't invest IN a 401K, you invest THROUGH a 401K. Unfortunately, the things you can invest in through your 401K are typically mutual funds. Mutual funds will have costs and fees, not all of which must be disclosed. As a result, Wall Street takes a big portion of your potential profit.
When I finally figured real estate out, I had most of my money tied up in a 401K. I could not get at it for real estate investing unless I quit my job. If I had not been so diligent about funding my 401K retirement account, I could have retired much earlier.
The company I worked for allowed us to self direct our 401k. I averaged 16% per year from 2000 to 2016 when I retired. Not all 401K’s are like that though. Most of my coworkers did not take advantage of it either🙃
My employer offered 20 mutual funds to choose from.
Post: We like investing in real estate more than 401(k)s.

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I 100% agree, and would add one thing.
You really can't invest IN a 401K, you invest THROUGH a 401K. Unfortunately, the things you can invest in through your 401K are typically mutual funds. Mutual funds will have costs and fees, not all of which must be disclosed. As a result, Wall Street takes a big portion of your potential profit.
When I finally figured real estate out, I had most of my money tied up in a 401K. I could not get at it for real estate investing unless I quit my job. If I had not been so diligent about funding my 401K retirement account, I could have retired much earlier.
Post: Passive multifamily investment?

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Post: Quick Question for Investors: Would You Ever Buy a House Without Seeing It First?

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I've bought, owned, and sold properties that I've never seen and all have made me good money.
My mental model is this. If I give somebody the opportunity to cheat me, they just might.
With that in mind, I NEVER used an inspector, property manager, or other professional recommended by someone else in the purchase process that might be able to work together to put me at a disadvantage. I found my own inspectors (and would pay them extra to take 3x the amount of photographs.) I found my own property manager who would also come by and take a look to tell me what they thought I needed to do. I found my own financing and they hired an independent appraiser, one that did not have a relationship with the seller.
If you have enough independant eyes on the deal, it is much harder to get cheated as a buyer.
Post: 401k or HELOC??

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A HELOC will hurt your DTI. Borrowing from your 401K won't. You can borrow $40K from your 401K. You have to pay back the loan but the payments and interest go to your 401K.
If you move into it and get a 3.5% down FHA loan, I presume that might be enough to make it work.
Is your 401K with your current employer? If so, getting more out is hard. Sometimes you can withdraw matching funds. A more complex and expensive way is to complete a QDRO and move a portion to your wife's name.
Post: When Is It Actually a Good Time to Sell Real Estate?

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I try to stay out of situations where I "need to sell". I want to be in situations where I choose to sell. Why would I choose to sell? The reasons are many, but usually they involve improving my total dollar returns or my return on time.
"Never Sell" is a very simplistic strategy. Because of that, it is also a dumb one.
Why do I call "never sell" a dumb strategy? Let's just look at one factor, depreciation. The moment you have owned a residential property for more than 27.5 years, you have used up all your depreciation expense. Your cashflow is now 100% exposed to ordinary income tax unless you have other offsets. You would be much better off swapping that house for another just like it and resetting the depreciation.
Now let's say you use accelerated depreciation. (You should.) If you do the math on that, somewhere around year 10-15 it stops making sense to continue owning that property. The math will tell you that simply swapping out that property for one just like it would improve your returns. I recently learned of a pair of brothers that would sell their houses to each other every so often for this very reason.
That is just one of many reasons why "never sell" is a bad strategy.
Don't forget that you "recapture" that depreciation, it's a delay not a gift.
What Is Depreciation Recapture?
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/depreciationrecapture.a...
Usually a 1031 exchange is beneficial. The best, in my opinion, is generational transfer done properly.
3 Ways To Transfer Real Estate To Future Generationshttps://www.forbes.com/sites/whittiertrust/2019/04/02/3-ways...
The real issue is hanging onto the property long enough for that to happen. It costs money to hang onto a property.
Over a long period of time, depreciation recapture becomes less important because so much appreciation has happened. The math remains correct.
Over the last 25 years, retail homes have gone up in value 181%. To simplify the math, that $100K home you bought 25 years ago is now worth $281K. The depreciation recapture on the $100K home might be something like $80K. Bonus depreciation on the $281K house could easily wipe out the depreciation recapture and leave you with residual depreciation for the next 27.5 years
Even better, remember you now have tons of equity you are pulling out at sale. Go buy two or three houses at $281K. You can easily wipe out any tax generated from depreciation recapture and have more savings going forward.
Over a 15 year time frame, US house prices have roughly doubled. The same sort of math applies. Do the math and the math will tell you what to do.
Will that always happen? When did it happen before?
"remember you now have tons of equity you are pulling out at sale."
Which of course, is also taxed. ;-)
This was a backward looking exercise, not an estimation of future appreciation. If you are considering selling you already know the exact amount of appreciation that has happened.