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All Forum Posts by: Engelo Rumora

Engelo Rumora has started 180 posts and replied 4386 times.

Post: Norada Capital Management suspending payments

Engelo Rumora
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  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 4,536
  • Votes 2,088
Quote from @Dewayne C.:

Reading all these posts are making it more difficult. If anyone can suggest some help I would greatly appreciate it. If you just want to shame me, well I’ll doing enough of that myself. And once I share this with my family… not sure what will happen. Any help out there please keep me in mind. And in your prayers. 


Sorry to hear mate 🙏

No shame in loosing.

It's how you recover and pick yourself back up.

If you don't, then that's a shame

I have lost more than I can count and so have many others on this forum.

Losses are part of business and life in general.

Our time and energy comes at a price.

The biggest price is the emotional one.

I prefer learning from losses as much as possible and doing my best to not repeat the same mistakes.

Also, not dwelling on it for long and not living in the past to avoid further emotional drag and doubt about moving forward.

Personally, I also don't get involved in lawsuits or collections and consider every loss as my own fault.

Moving forward smarter and more experienced.

Moving forward and doing my best to make more than what I have lost.

I hope that helps and God Bless 

Post: Norada Capital Management suspending payments

Engelo Rumora
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  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 4,536
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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Jay Hinrichs

It is up to the GP to verify accredited status. Sec has a lot of language about reasonable steps as guidance to be taken.

Most of our accredited come through an investment advisor who verified it. If it is someone “retail” the way many do it is require documentation from them such as a w2, letter from cpa, tax returns or if it’s net worth then backup to provide that confirmation.

Just someone saying they are accredited does not fly.


Ok I guess the ones I saw that were just simple one page question that you attested to did not fly then.. I know the few investments I have made I did have to have my CpA write a letter stating that Ms. Lori and I meet the  criteria.  

You can get investors to sign off on being accredited even if they aren't.

My CPA can send a letter that I own half of Australia's outback mate lol

Post: All Cash or Loan

Engelo Rumora
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  • Investor
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 4,536
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Quote from @Kevin Goldman:
Quote from @Chris Rosenberg:

What a great position to be in! I don’t know the rest of your financial picture but if you are a realtor and have $1 mil cash to put into real estate and no other assets I would diversify a bit into other investments. If the real estate market crashes you lose your job and your wealth. I personally prefer to not be over leveraged but I have at least some type of leverage on every property. If I were you (and there are many things I don’t know about you) I might put half into cash flowing real estate at 60-70% leverage (to get depreciation, loan pay down, cashflow, and hopefully appreciation) and invest a large portion of the rest into something else. And also keep a nice chunk of change in reserves or very safe short term investments. But the very last thing I would do is put the whole $1 mil into real estate if that’s all you have. If you have lots of other wealth in other buckets then disregard my last comment. Hope this helps!


 Thanks for your response dude, I just invested $300k into a syndication deal in Vegas, I am looking at a quadplex in Toledo for $380k'ish that I would probably pay cash for and cash flow to gross $4250 a month, and keep the other $300k'sh invested with my manager.  I could either take a heloc out against the property down the road when rates drop and buy more properties or get a SBL to buy more.  definitely want to be diversified, may look into 2nd trusts deeds but i need to make moves soon and generate some cash flow. 


Focus on one strategy and perfect it.

Don't spread yourself too thin.

As Buffet said - "Diversification is protection against ignorance"

Post: All Cash or Loan

Engelo Rumora
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  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 4,536
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Quote from @Kevin Goldman:

Thanks everyone for the input, i spoke to my money manager yesterday, she mentions a Secured Bank Loan as a line of credit borrowed against my investments with them. 

It would be an adjustable rate starting at current rates about 7%, with rates hopefully coming down through the next year, if I bought a quadplex in Toledo that i'm currently looking at for $380k, it would be grossing me $4250 a month with a payment back to Chase of about $2200, still in the green after insurance, property taxes and management fees, and the money i'm borrowing against will still be invested HOPEFULLY continuing to grow with the current stock market.

Anyone ever bought a property with an SBL?


Hi Kevin,

I think you can find much better numbers than this in Toledo.

Plus, you have to include calculations for maintenance, vacancy also.

If you don't think anything will go wrong, it will.

It's real estate and real estate is a rollercoaster.

Granted, I'm local and pick up the best of the best deals due to doing it for over 10 years.

I closed on a 6 unit 2 months ago.

A class area IMO.

$160,000 purchase price.

Rehab around $80,000 (More than I budgeted).

Optimized rents between $4,000 - $4,500.

ARV is $350,000+

The deals are out there and don't rush in.

All good things take time.

Much success

Post: Ohio Market Still Good?

Engelo Rumora
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  • Toledo, OH
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Quote from @Michael P.:

Check out beautiful Toledo Ohio. Plenty of cash flow and appreciation. Truly the land of milk and honey. Also remembered to play the long game, the entire southwest of the country will have no water soon and there will be mass migration to the Great Lakes bordering states.

https://www.realtor.com/research/top-housing-markets-2024/


I don't like Toledo anymore.

Too many out of state investors are here now making the market better than ever.

It's frustrating growing the business so much.

Preferred snail pace growth like when we first started hehe

Post: Turnkey properties investing for my family.

Engelo Rumora
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  • Toledo, OH
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Quote from @V.G Jason:

The excuses people make to invest at the most casual level is appalling.

I'm not going to sit here and compare lives, but trust me folks with 20x the amount of stuff on their plate can go out there and invest properly in RE by doing their diligence. You don't need a turnkey headache through a broker company. Go do the job yourself, go find a market and find a house. Buy it, form a team, and let someone manage it and grow properly. Don't buy turnkey when they are already factoring all the headache cost to you, and there's no guarantee a future headache won't happen.

Having a 5 year old, a W2 and living in Cali is nothing. So many of us have a lot more on the plate and get it done. Trying is failing, doing is going right.



Problem is mate nobody is willing to make that sacrifice.

That's why we have a job lol

I moved from Australia to the US in 2012 to follow my real estate dreams.

Folks have been born and bread here and still many don't want to do the work and would rather complain and blame me for any issues that occur from a turnkey investment standpoint ehhh 🤷‍♂️

Post: Toledo Scams ⚠️

Engelo Rumora
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  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 4,536
  • Votes 2,088
Quote from @Lily Wong:
Quote from @Engelo Rumora:
Quote from @Lily Wong:
Quote from @Engelo Rumora:

G’Day BP folks,

A fellow Toledo investor started a Facebook group revealing all local scammers.

Mostly contractors.

10+ years of investing in Toledo and stopped counting at $1m in losses.

It’s just the nature of the beast and the cost of doing business in my eyes.

Unfortunately, Toledo is notorious for bad operators and poor quality of workmanship in many industries.

Maybe this group will help you not loose the same amount of cheese that I did $$$

You’re welcome 😇 

https://facebook.com/groups/786864700099337/


Thank you for posting this! Much needed. Do you have a contractor that you would recommend for Toledo? The one I used was the worst workmanship I've encountered and didn't complete the job either.



Sorry to hear about your troubles but not uncommon.

You will find recommendations in the group.

As you can imagine, we keep our trusted contractors close to our chest as we give them volume and need them working for us.

All the best 🙏

Thank you! I also just listened to your podcast episode! Very insightful on vetting with your elimination question. Hoping to learn more from your youtubes!



Thanks so much for your kind words.

Long time ago and so much has changed since then lol

Feels like a lifetime ago

But such is life 🙏

Post: Toledo Scams ⚠️

Engelo Rumora
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  • Investor
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 4,536
  • Votes 2,088
Quote from @Lily Wong:
Quote from @Engelo Rumora:

G’Day BP folks,

A fellow Toledo investor started a Facebook group revealing all local scammers.

Mostly contractors.

10+ years of investing in Toledo and stopped counting at $1m in losses.

It’s just the nature of the beast and the cost of doing business in my eyes.

Unfortunately, Toledo is notorious for bad operators and poor quality of workmanship in many industries.

Maybe this group will help you not loose the same amount of cheese that I did $$$

You’re welcome 😇 

https://facebook.com/groups/786864700099337/


Thank you for posting this! Much needed. Do you have a contractor that you would recommend for Toledo? The one I used was the worst workmanship I've encountered and didn't complete the job either.



Sorry to hear about your troubles but not uncommon.

You will find recommendations in the group.

As you can imagine, we keep our trusted contractors close to our chest as we give them volume and need them working for us.

All the best 🙏

Post: Norada Capital Management suspending payments

Engelo Rumora
Posted
  • Investor
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 4,536
  • Votes 2,088
Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Jon P.:

UPDATE:
....How do others interpret this?....

Complete and utter insanity that anyone would ever have "invested" into such a bonkers thing. 

Because it all reads as legit, as all this was baked in from day 1. Which is NUTZ! 
I can't wrap my head around the fact that people bought into such a thing..... 

It's as if everyone purchased bear-trap underwear because it was trending and ignored that it's giant steel teeth wrapped around your........ 


As Chris C mentioned,

Once that rapport is built, people sign blindly.

I trusted and lost $100,000 on an oil fund deal.

Signed blindly...

Invested in a RE tech project.

Lost $250,000

Signed blindly...

It is what it is.

We live, we learn, we grow.

As Jensen Huang said - "Greatness and character are born out of people who suffered"

Wishing everyone all the best and give your family a big kiss as at the end of the day, that's all that matters 🥰

Post: Toledo Scams ⚠️

Engelo Rumora
Posted
  • Investor
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 4,536
  • Votes 2,088

G’Day BP folks,

A fellow Toledo investor started a Facebook group revealing all local scammers.

Mostly contractors.

10+ years of investing in Toledo and stopped counting at $1m in losses.

It’s just the nature of the beast and the cost of doing business in my eyes.

Unfortunately, Toledo is notorious for bad operators and poor quality of workmanship in many industries.

Maybe this group will help you not loose the same amount of cheese that I did $$$

You’re welcome 😇 

https://facebook.com/groups/786864700099337/