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All Forum Posts by: Joshuam R.

Joshuam R. has started 40 posts and replied 257 times.

Post: Pace Morby sub two mentorship/course

Joshuam R.Posted
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Quote from @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James French:

Hello BP


I recently talked with someone from Pace Morbey team about a course but it’s extremely expensive. Does anyone know someone or has experience from taking his class! It sounds really good but the cost!! Thanks for your feedback!

Are you a self starter? Yes ? Then you just need youtube training and a friend to have coffee with on a weekly basis to hold you accountable. You don't need an expensive program. Although, if you want, I'll take your $30,000 and have coffee with you weekly so you can whine about how hard it is is do real estate investing.

Are you a self starter? No ?
Then get a real job. It doesn't matter how much you spend on a training program if you aren't a self starter. You will  spend all that money and still be a guy who hasn't bought a house.

A nice guy, but still a guy without a house. Don't be misled. Decide you are going to take action and get started.


 Bingo! Bango! Tu Tu Tango! 

Is great you posted this, because all these years this is what I actually put my self through before purchases, am I going to get into action , or am I buying "I believe in you" voices. The question you posted is very helpful tool to help you save your time , money and emotions. Also your question clearly filters out your decisions, to either get started and use what resources are in your reach, and/or celebrate your self for buying new friends for $30,000 which is all to me 100% legit and do as you please and brings happiness and reinforcement into your life.

What I get sad about is all the blurry choices people make for themselves either route they go.

For those individual hating on it, The only solutions is....for you to become STR owner and enjoy your hard work rewards. That way you stop hating on STR. I moved into a new development, already in the past 4 months had 3 different couples on our same street call the cops on their spouses, people parking on the streets, and many residents leaving their trash bins out side for days, etc. yada yada. IDGAF as long as my safety is not compromise. I can lean on the negatives and breath heavy or just let it go and focus on the margins of this lovely symbol "$$$" , make memories and on to the next property. Always something for somebody to make it personal. So lets call out the the universe and lets make it rain good vibes, and focus on the Benjamin's. As for this question, just in case you are researching to see if is worth it, I say do it, go get them STR and deal with the later things, later. For every one sharing their knowledge and experiences on BP , thank you always.

Post: Florida LLC 2 member taxed as S-corp

Joshuam R.Posted
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Quote from @Gary Tucker:

Lenders aren't going to be too concerned with your tax status or type of corporation. If your going for construction, fix/flip, rehab etc. then experience will matter most. Otherwise an LLC will be fine and previous history will most likely not come into play for a DSCR. More important are credit score, down payment, rent income, property value.

We've had an LLC with 2 different DBA's and changed filing status from LLC to S-corp for one biz. It's doable to change name but a lot easier to run a new DBA that you can use instead.

FYI I send out a lot of DSCR quotes and while experience does make the process smoother, it's not a requirement or anything.


Yes, I agree, initially I was going more towards the DBA under the current LLC, not to complicate my forum post, but I could not even fit the current full company name in the Dun&Bradstreet setup, also I remember how I had to shorten each word during opening biz account, we would like to shorten/rebrand.

Aside to that, I agree with your thoughts/knowledge. Overall the evolution of current business and its corporate structure, growth is part of the organic stages of entities invincible force. At the end seems like all big companies always look back and share good feedback/experiences on what they wish they knew ahead, this and that and are able to restructure and polish their legal structure into their current standards or newer business strategies.

In summary for us here is what I see (short version, no cpa review yet)

short term: 2 member LLC (zero employee), no income revenue, get it taxed as s-corp (holding) with possible dba or other llc under it.

long term: To start shielding big cash revenue, involvement of future investments / investors then go for C-corp restructure.


Post: Florida LLC 2 member taxed as S-corp

Joshuam R.Posted
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Quote from @Gary Tucker:

Double taxation for a C-corp only becomes an issue when paying shareholders after the tax year. It can be avoided with issuing bonuses or dividends in the same tax year. 

We have major renovations going so not much left at end of year. When the time does come, I can pay myself a bonus for the taxable profit at end of year to avoid the double tax. Being C-corp is good when adding shareholders or selling company in my opinion.

I like the standard LLC just because you don't have to worry about the double tax or payroll. Any profit flows through to your personal return.

Before I move forward with s/c corp on the llc and CPA relationship.

I am looking at two options, dissolution of current LLC and start new one with new name. Or just updated / name change on the current llc.

I know and understand a company name is nothing without the action taken with it, also long term it may or may not matter depending on future growth, or exit strategy of the company.

But at this moment in time and our life, reason for name change/update is that the original llc name is four long words we want to bring down to one word that have selected, also for us just two (spouse and me) we now are more with clarity on what we are doing and want moving forward so this new name symbolically represents that for us.


I see that just updating /name change is best this way the llc few years of history of establishment may be of importance to some private funding individuals.

Post: Florida LLC 2 member taxed as S-corp

Joshuam R.Posted
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Quote from @Gary Tucker:

If you go the S-corp route you will have to pay yourself a reasonable wage according to the IRS for your industry. We have our real estate biz in LLC taxed as C-corp mainly because we are growing the business, not making a living on the income. The S-corp is good for established small businesses owners like bars, cafes, restaurants, etc. It helps avoid the big self-employment tax at end of the year really.

Really best thing is to talk with accountant and let them know what your trying to accomplish, short and long term.

Good Luck


 That makes sense. Yes indeed the C-corp is for growth. I am currently with main stream of income as W2, so yes I wont be paying myself income from the llc for a while. The only one part I did not wrap my head around is that one point stated for C-corp you get taxed twice.

Another thing I picked up on if we do get private funding for fix or buy/holds then C-corp would be best route also.

Post: Florida LLC 2 member taxed as S-corp

Joshuam R.Posted
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Any one doing it this way if so, any good info or lessons learned would be appreciated.

Had our LLC few years, (stagnant/not used), have not selected S-corp or C-corp with IRS

From what I gather best form will be S-corp.

We want to transfer our first rental from our personal profile and into the LLC. We are also moving forward with assignment of contracts and all income want to push through the llc.

Yes, after the end of this we will be sitting with a CPA but as for everything you want to know what your are going in for.

Thank you all for your thoughts and guidance.

Post: Selling my house to my llc

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This was 6 years ago and I am little disappointed no one else has chime in. This is also a question I have today, sell first rental to my LLC. @Jennifer Ceren tapp what was your final solution to your question and process?

Post: Should I sell or keep my rental

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Quote from @Dave Foster:

@Irvin Nguyen

If you don't think that you qualify for the primary residence exemption than you're best option for avoiding tax is a 1031 exchange. Although, depending on when you moved out you may still qualify.  It doesn't matter when you purchased it.  The question is have you lived in it for 2 out of the 5 years immediately prior to selling it.

 As far as your concerns about the time constraints and the difficulty of finding replacement properties, we are still seeing more than 92% of our clients complete their exchanges . One of the best things you can do if you know that your property will sell fast is to go under contract on your new property before you even close the sale on the house you own now. You are required to close the sale before the purchase, but there are no rules about which has to go under contract first. Here's a link to an article we wrote for BP about mitigating the risks of the 45 day requirement,

 https://www.biggerpockets.com/...


 Lets say Person lived in their primary 2018, moved out and rented it out in 2022. That means sell by 2023 or anytime after 2022 still counts since the actually total time living in it was only 4 years?

Post: Should I sell or keep my rental

Joshuam R.Posted
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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

You can avoid property tax by selling it and using a 1031 Exchange. The "2-in-5-Year Rule" doesn't matter.

I would recommend you sell. If you only make $200 a month after paying the mortgage and property management, then you are technically in a negative cashflow. You should be setting aside 10% each month for maintenance, 10% for capex, and 10% for vacancy until you have a healthy reserve established.

You also have to consider Oregon is increasingly unfair to Landlords and that is unlikely to get better. You should move your capital to a state that is more tax friendly, believes in justice for Landlords, and where your money can cashflow better.

once you collect the 10% for each of the 3, what is consider a healthy reserve? The point to where okay I can now stop saving this 10% for this category.

Curious

capex healthy reserve = cost of at least one of the most expensive repair (example roof replacement) 

vacancy healthy reserve = is 3 months worth of your property bank mortgage payment. (thats what im doing)

maintenance healthy reserve = I would stop saving for this area per property once I have 12 months worth of it?


Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @James Hamling:

Would this be a discussion or a consideration to any degree if the tenant was a 27yr guy? 

No? Aah, ok, I don't know about yours but my dictionary calls that discrimination. 

So, isn't that what we are actually talking about here, discrimination? 

It really is that simple, how would this be handled if it were anyone else. And if the issue is that it's an 80yr old women, then what your really saying is how to be a charity organization, and in that case NOT by being a landlord. 

I am VERY charitable, I simply keep my charity work segmented to my charity work, and my business too business. 


 I think you just opened yourself up to the label police. Misogynist, Ageist, probably Racist too :-)


 Really, Racist???? Because I ask the OBVIOUS of would this even be a consideration if the age and gender were different, that's racist? 

So, if I don't like blueberries, let me guess, RACIST? 

I pointed out an OBVIOUS TRUTH, the OP would not give a moments thought if the tenants age and gender were different, that by definition is discrimination. Sorry if that little "police" called reality hurts feelings, it's still the truth none the less. 

And by acting in this discriminatory way for this tenant, ever think about the liability that opens OP too? When other tenants find out and say "hey, WTF, why do I have to pay ___ for the exact same unit and she pays ___???". What's the OP to say "oh, she's an old lady"? Yeah, and those other tenants go straight to authorities, or tenants advocacy group, or attorney, whatever and DONE, OP is up S-creek because of Discriminatory rental practices. 

But no, let me guess, I am racist for stating the reality and laws. 


 That is a good point, did not think of this scenario. Now I am curious if there is a correct way to help / steps where it would also protect you from other tenants beeching. Also I would say the strategy I offered should filter out the final conclusion within 12 months or way less.