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All Forum Posts by: Paul Novak

Paul Novak has started 21 posts and replied 146 times.

Post: Small & Mighty Real Estate Investing

Paul Novak
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 109
Quote from @Don Konipol:

@paul 

@Paul Novak First congratulations on finding and sticking to whatโ€™s successful and comfortable for you.

You can always ACCELERATE wealth creation; the question is do you want to take on more risk and or dwell outside your comfort zone in order to accelerate? 

Youโ€™ve developed a moderately fast wealth accumulation strategy thatโ€™s relatively low risk, enabling you to ride out down cycles, negative cash flows, unexpected necessary expenditures, etc.  Your strategy takes advantage of your employment cash flow and ability to control discretionary spending.  So, WHY screw with a successful system that your able to operate without undue stress? 

BUT, letโ€™s say for personal reasons you want to โ€œstretchโ€ for faster wealth accumulation.  That can be accomplished a number of ways. As you suggest lowering down payment to buy more properties is one way, although the downside is greater risk in event of down cycle and more time to manage required.  But, there are other strategies that can counter balance at least one of the disadvantages.  Think multi unit residential, commercial properties, or purchasing houses โ€œsubject toโ€ existing mortgage.  Purchasing subject to allows you to (1) buy a property and pay a lower rate (3-4%) that was in existence when the loan was originated, so cash flow will be better as well as equity buildup; (2) not have to qualify for the mortgage saving time, expense, and allowing property purchases in greater number than otherwise and (3) no personal liability on downside (4) no debt added to your PFS.  There are numerous threads about sub to and many investors believe it is a high risk strategy (especially for seller) and believe buyers who use it โ€œtake advantageโ€ of naive sellers.  While that may sometime be true, full disclosure to all parties should eliminate any ethical or moral concerns (imo). 


 Don, thanks for taking the time to reach out and respond to my post.  I did trying to do one subject to loan an my real estate investor didn't know much about it.  Where would you start with a process like this.  Would I go to the current owners bank to see if they would allow a subject to loan?  The deal is good and the current owner is my friend.  If I could find a way to make it work I think it would be a good deal.  My fear is the lender calling the loan due because I wouldn't have the cash available to pay it off.

Post: Small & Mighty Real Estate Investing

Paul Novak
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 109
Quote from @John Cardinale:
Quote from @Paul Novak:

BP Team,

I am looking for perspective and advice.  I have been following BP on YouTube for a few years and have been investing in real estate for the last 3 years.  Over that time we have acquired 4 properties, 6 doors.  Those properties are currently cash flowing $3,815 per month but if they were paid off they would generate $6785.58 per month.  My ultimate goal is to generate $11K per month cashflow and retire.  I have decided that I don't want to build a real estate empire but rather generate that cashflow from as few properties as possible.  What has worked for me is duplexes and single family homes.  I like this strategy and plan to continue.  As you can see by the attached photo I am tracking current cash flow as well as what my cash flow would be if my properties were fully paid off.  My goal is to shift from buying to paying off my properties as soon as the paid off property bar hits $11k per month. 

I live in Sheboygan Falls, WI.  The average rental home price I am looking at is between $175K and $250K for a 3 bedroom house that requires minimal work in a nice neighborhood.  Those houses could rent anywhere from $1,600 per month to $2,000 per month.  One of my buy box requirements is the house needs to cashflow at least $500 per month or I am not buying it.  With rising prices and interest rates I have been able to overcome that requirement by putting more money down.  The last house I purchased was $227,500 and we put down $85K.  My wife and I both have jobs that pay over 6 figures and our monthly living expenses are only around $8K.  We invest the rest in our business and reinvest all the profits from the business back into the business.  We are able to save about $100K per year so putting down $85K is possible for us with our current situation.  Now for the question to the group:


 - I would like to be able to retire as soon as possible even though I know we are 5-10 years away from that.  If I keep doing the same strategy, putting more money down upfront, I will generate more cashflow now but am delaying how quickly I can purchase houses.  I always viewed it as "who cares how much money I put down", I plan to pay them all of before I retire as part of my ultimate strategy anyways.  All I am doing is paying more on the front end and that saves me how much I need to pay on the backend.  It's also less total interest paid because I am borrowing less total money.  This also protects my downside risk because I could very easily lower my rents if I had to in a market downturn and compete vs. being forced to sell because of losing money.  This also gives me solid staying power when maintenance costs arise.  Should I keep doing this strategy?  Below is my other option.

- Now that we are generating $3,815 per month cashflow from my current portfolio do I just continue to buy more properties putting the minimum 20% down?  Doing this would put my new properties making next to nothing, running some rough numbers I may make $100 or $150 per month on new properties with mortgages that are around $1,500 per month.  I would use the cashflow from my current properties to protect us if we had vacancy or repairs that needed to be paid for.  Doing this would allow me to cut my down payments in half.  Or said differently purchase twice the amount of houses I have been buying.  I truly think I only need 4 more houses to hit my goal and then shift from buying to paying them off.

I am not sure if I am thinking about this the right way and I am sure there are things I am not thinking about but below are my thoughts:

Pros

 - I can purchase the houses I need to hit my goal faster

 - With getting homes fasters the depreciation, tax benefits, amortization, appreciation, rent increases all start sooner

 - Home prices on average should be lower now then if I buy in 4-5 years

 - I can take better advantage of leverage

Cons

 - I have more risk until I pay the properties off

 - Less upfront cashflow

 - Longer timeframe to acquire the properties to reach my goal

If anyone has any opinions or advice I'd love to hear it.

One thing to consider is the more of oneโ€™s own money you use, the more you can be lax and lazy with the deal and your standards. If youโ€™re using all cash you can afford to make mistakes with underwriting, or during renovations. If youโ€™re repeatedly using OPM successfully, the processes to follow obligate stricter adherence to the system and so chances are you are a good bit more careful. Using all Cash can make us lazy so we need to watch out for that. 

 Thanks for taking the time to respond.  I do agree with you, when your margin of error is higher you don't have to be as precise which ultimately leads to waste in profits and prolongs your abilities to reach your goal if you are not disciplined.

Post: ๐ŸŽ‰ BPCON Registration is Now Open! ๐ŸŽ‰

Paul Novak
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 109
Quote from @Jeff Langley:

Hi!  

Iโ€™m thinking about staying at Moon Palace but not attending the actual conference. Iโ€™m at the point where I value the relationships I make more than listening to a speaker repeat themselves or market their program. Anyone else plan on doing this?


 I am very excited for the conference as this will be my first BPCON event but I am also brining my wife.  She has signed up for some of the events but I could see her potentially going to a few of the events and taking a few of them off just to hang out and network.

Post: Small & Mighty Real Estate Investing

Paul Novak
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 109

BP Team,

I am looking for perspective and advice.  I have been following BP on YouTube for a few years and have been investing in real estate for the last 3 years.  Over that time we have acquired 4 properties, 6 doors.  Those properties are currently cash flowing $3,815 per month but if they were paid off they would generate $6785.58 per month.  My ultimate goal is to generate $11K per month cashflow and retire.  I have decided that I don't want to build a real estate empire but rather generate that cashflow from as few properties as possible.  What has worked for me is duplexes and single family homes.  I like this strategy and plan to continue.  As you can see by the attached photo I am tracking current cash flow as well as what my cash flow would be if my properties were fully paid off.  My goal is to shift from buying to paying off my properties as soon as the paid off property bar hits $11k per month. 

I live in Sheboygan Falls, WI.  The average rental home price I am looking at is between $175K and $250K for a 3 bedroom house that requires minimal work in a nice neighborhood.  Those houses could rent anywhere from $1,600 per month to $2,000 per month.  One of my buy box requirements is the house needs to cashflow at least $500 per month or I am not buying it.  With rising prices and interest rates I have been able to overcome that requirement by putting more money down.  The last house I purchased was $227,500 and we put down $85K.  My wife and I both have jobs that pay over 6 figures and our monthly living expenses are only around $8K.  We invest the rest in our business and reinvest all the profits from the business back into the business.  We are able to save about $100K per year so putting down $85K is possible for us with our current situation.  Now for the question to the group:


 - I would like to be able to retire as soon as possible even though I know we are 5-10 years away from that.  If I keep doing the same strategy, putting more money down upfront, I will generate more cashflow now but am delaying how quickly I can purchase houses.  I always viewed it as "who cares how much money I put down", I plan to pay them all of before I retire as part of my ultimate strategy anyways.  All I am doing is paying more on the front end and that saves me how much I need to pay on the backend.  It's also less total interest paid because I am borrowing less total money.  This also protects my downside risk because I could very easily lower my rents if I had to in a market downturn and compete vs. being forced to sell because of losing money.  This also gives me solid staying power when maintenance costs arise.  Should I keep doing this strategy?  Below is my other option.

- Now that we are generating $3,815 per month cashflow from my current portfolio do I just continue to buy more properties putting the minimum 20% down?  Doing this would put my new properties making next to nothing, running some rough numbers I may make $100 or $150 per month on new properties with mortgages that are around $1,500 per month.  I would use the cashflow from my current properties to protect us if we had vacancy or repairs that needed to be paid for.  Doing this would allow me to cut my down payments in half.  Or said differently purchase twice the amount of houses I have been buying.  I truly think I only need 4 more houses to hit my goal and then shift from buying to paying them off.

I am not sure if I am thinking about this the right way and I am sure there are things I am not thinking about but below are my thoughts:

Pros

 - I can purchase the houses I need to hit my goal faster

 - With getting homes fasters the depreciation, tax benefits, amortization, appreciation, rent increases all start sooner

 - Home prices on average should be lower now then if I buy in 4-5 years

 - I can take better advantage of leverage

Cons

 - I have more risk until I pay the properties off

 - Less upfront cashflow

 - Longer timeframe to acquire the properties to reach my goal

If anyone has any opinions or advice I'd love to hear it.

Post: ๐ŸŽ‰ BPCON Registration is Now Open! ๐ŸŽ‰

Paul Novak
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 109
Quote from @Noah Bacon:
Quote from @Paul Novak:
Quote from @Noah Bacon:

Dear BiggerPockets Community,

We're thrilled to announce that registration for BPCON 2024 is officially open! ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿก Join us for an unforgettable experience as we gather virtually to learn, connect, and grow together.

๐ŸŒŸ Exciting News: Early Bird Window Extended! ๐ŸŒŸ

๐Ÿ“… Save the Date: BPCON will take place from October 6th - 8th in Cancun, Mexico!

๐ŸŽŸ๏ธ Registration Details: Secure your spot early and take advantage of our early bird pricing. 

๐Ÿ’ธPricing Guide:  This year, it's more than just learningโ€”it's an all-inclusive, immersive getaway. Relax by the beach, soak up the sun, and dive deep into real estate knowledge, all in one extraordinary event. Secure your spot now with one of our exclusive event packages, as individual passes won't be available. Here's a pricing guide at the bottom that you can download!

๐ŸŒŸ Why Attend BPCON? ๐ŸŒŸ

  • Make Valuable Connections: With fun-filled activities and networking opportunities, BPCON is designed to make it easy for you to connect with and lean on like-minded investors who share your goals and aspirations so you never feel alone on your investing journey.
  • Boost Your Potential: Buzzing with energy, inspiring speeches, and the best teachers, youโ€™re guaranteed to leave full of momentum and confidence to get started and go farther on your financial freedom journey.
  • Close More: The most approachable environment where you can meet your mentor, partner, or teammates and grow your portfolio to unimaginable new heights.
  • ๐Ÿ™Œ Don't miss out on this incredible opportunity to learn, grow, and connect with the BiggerPockets community. Register now and secure your spot at BPCON 2024!

๐Ÿ”— Register Here

๐Ÿ๏ธSee you at BPCON! 


 Quick question about pricing.  My wife and I just purchased our airfare so we 100% plan to attend.  I am a BP member but not a pro member currently.  What is the difference in price for the trip as a guest vs. a pro member?  Trying to see if it would make sense to just become a pro member depending on the discount of the event.

 Hi Paul,

I'm very excited to meet you and your wife this year at BPCON!

Attached is the pricing guide breaking out the GA - Standard and Pro Member - Standard rates. It depends on which room you are looking at reserving, but this guide should have everything you're looking for!

Please let me know if there is a specific room you are inquiring about, or if you have any other questions I can assist with!


 Don from BP reached out to me via phone call which was really helpful.  The annual BP Pro membership if paid in full is $390.  The discount to BPCON is $450.  It only makes sense to buy the pro membership if you plan to go to BPCON and aren't a pro member already.  I am posting this just so others can see this to possibly help them increase their benefits yet save money at the same time.

Post: ๐ŸŽ‰ BPCON Registration is Now Open! ๐ŸŽ‰

Paul Novak
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 109
Quote from @Noah Bacon:

Dear BiggerPockets Community,

We're thrilled to announce that registration for BPCON 2024 is officially open! ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿก Join us for an unforgettable experience as we gather virtually to learn, connect, and grow together.

๐ŸŒŸ Exciting News: Early Bird Window Extended! ๐ŸŒŸ

๐Ÿ“… Save the Date: BPCON will take place from October 6th - 8th in Cancun, Mexico!

๐ŸŽŸ๏ธ Registration Details: Secure your spot early and take advantage of our early bird pricing. 

๐Ÿ’ธPricing Guide:  This year, it's more than just learningโ€”it's an all-inclusive, immersive getaway. Relax by the beach, soak up the sun, and dive deep into real estate knowledge, all in one extraordinary event. Secure your spot now with one of our exclusive event packages, as individual passes won't be available. Here's a pricing guide at the bottom that you can download!

๐ŸŒŸ Why Attend BPCON? ๐ŸŒŸ

  • Make Valuable Connections: With fun-filled activities and networking opportunities, BPCON is designed to make it easy for you to connect with and lean on like-minded investors who share your goals and aspirations so you never feel alone on your investing journey.
  • Boost Your Potential: Buzzing with energy, inspiring speeches, and the best teachers, youโ€™re guaranteed to leave full of momentum and confidence to get started and go farther on your financial freedom journey.
  • Close More: The most approachable environment where you can meet your mentor, partner, or teammates and grow your portfolio to unimaginable new heights.
  • ๐Ÿ™Œ Don't miss out on this incredible opportunity to learn, grow, and connect with the BiggerPockets community. Register now and secure your spot at BPCON 2024!

๐Ÿ”— Register Here

๐Ÿ๏ธSee you at BPCON! 


 Quick question about pricing.  My wife and I just purchased our airfare so we 100% plan to attend.  I am a BP member but not a pro member currently.  What is the difference in price for the trip as a guest vs. a pro member?  Trying to see if it would make sense to just become a pro member depending on the discount of the event.

Post: Dealing With Neighbors

Paul Novak
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 109
Quote from @Kristine Ann:

@Paul Novak Sounds like the landlord next door might want to sell at a good price. 

It isn't your responsibility to make sure the neighbors are quiet. Maybe gift your tenants a white noise machine and make sure all their locks are secure.

You're new tenants probably won't renew their lease.  Be prepared for that.


 I know and thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m trying to prevent.  We only do month to month leases.  Iโ€™m trying to do what we can to protect our tenants and our businesses reputation.  Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Post: Dealing With Neighbors

Paul Novak
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 109
Quote from @Scott Mac:
Quote from @Paul Novak:

BP Community I recently purchased a rental property in the town I grew up in and I am having trouble with the neighbors.  I know this area pretty well and I would consider this area a B class neighborhood, not the best, but not horrible.  The house we purchased was an Air BnB previously, had many upgrades to it, and is in really good shape.  I love the property.  We got great tenants and have already built a strong relationship with them.  While we aren't rental pro's at this point we have been at this for 4 years and now have 6 doors so I also wouldn't consider myself a rookie. 

When we closed on the house my wife and I spent about a week over there doing small repairs, cleaning, and getting it ready for the new tenants.  We didn't observe any issues during the day other than the house next to us looked a bit run down with some garbage outside.  We found out the property was an upper and lower rental and I talked to the landlord about cleaning up the garbage.  The conversation went well and we moved forward.  When my wife met the new tenants to give them the keys they noticed a dead dear with a tarp over it in the neighbors backyard.  She again worked with the tenants next door and their landlord to get it removed and disposed of as we can't have rotting animals in the backyard in the middle of the city, honestly I don't even know how that would have ended up there.  Now our tenants have been there for about 3 weeks and every night there is shouting, people coming and going, and loud music in their driveway which butts up against our house from 10pm - 3:30am.  This is keeping our tenants up, along with their small children.  With all the random cars that keep showing up to the house for 10 minutes a pop and then leaving and it being all different people I think this could be a drug problem.  Last weekend someone who went to that house actually abandoned a car in the driveway of our property and it had to be towed.

I am someone who isn't afraid of conflict or having a tough conversation.  I have tried to handle this situation by talking to the neighboring tenants and the landlord.  The conversations have always gone well but we are still having the noise issues.  They did clean up the garbage and remove the deer but the people coming and going along with the noise is the biggest issue.  Ultimately I am worried about protecting our business's reputation, the safety of our tenants, and having a viable rental.  I did work with the police on Monday to explain the situation and see if they could help and I told the landlord next door that I took this action.  If issues were going on at my property I would like to know about it and have a chance to fix it first.  I have also been asking the landlord what it's going to take to remove the tenants that are and issue.

I am sure others on here have delt with similar situations and I was curious if you had any advice on things I should try?

 Hi Paul,

You grew up in Wisconsin and have no idea why there is a dead deer in the backyard covered with a tarp, which you call rotting. And now say is disposed of.

Many people in the area use these deer for their food. The state gives them a paper license that they put on the back of their jacket with a pin, and then they take a sniper type rifle with a scope and they go out in he woods and they shoot the deer.

They take the guts out of it where they shoot it, and then strap it onto the trunk of the car or in the bed of their truck and take it back to their house, and hang it upside down from a tree limb to let the blood drain out of it for a certain amount of time.

Then they either cut it up themselves into steak and hamburger or they take it to a butcher shop an have it done.

I believe these deer produce close to 100 lbs of meat and that it's  put into a deep freezer and they use that as their food for the rest of the year.

It tends to be a family tradition to do it versus a poverty issue.

Poverty people seem to rely on food stamps.

It is a cultural thing for the area, and for other areas such as Michigan, Minnesota, Colorado, North Dakota, et cetera.

It seems unpleasant. But this is how many people choose to feed themselves and their family- as a cultural tradition.

We probably have some deer hunters in the here.

As for the noise, ask the renter to call the police when the noise happens. Let LEO's deal with it.

Good Luck!


 I understand deer hunting, as you said I grew up in Wisconsin.  Deer hunting season is far over, the deer wasn't gutted, and the tenants said they had no clue how it got there.  They seemed to be as shocked as we were that a dead deer was rotting in their own backyard under a tarp.  If it was a deer hunting situation where the deer was brought back to their house, properly processed, and disposed of that would make sense.  This wasn't the case with this situation.

Post: Dealing With Neighbors

Paul Novak
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 109
Quote from @Theresa Harris:

I think you've taken the necessary steps.  The tenants can also phone the police if there is loud yelling from the property next door.  I'd also put up cameras outside to record what is going on (and should the police need it).


 I agree with you.  We have take then steps to get the police involved.  The tenants also installed a ring doorbell to the front of the property to get recordings and have shared that with the police.  I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

Post: Dealing With Neighbors

Paul Novak
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 109

BP Community I recently purchased a rental property in the town I grew up in and I am having trouble with the neighbors.  I know this area pretty well and I would consider this area a B class neighborhood, not the best, but not horrible.  The house we purchased was an Air BnB previously, had many upgrades to it, and is in really good shape.  I love the property.  We got great tenants and have already built a strong relationship with them.  While we aren't rental pro's at this point we have been at this for 4 years and now have 6 doors so I also wouldn't consider myself a rookie. 

When we closed on the house my wife and I spent about a week over there doing small repairs, cleaning, and getting it ready for the new tenants.  We didn't observe any issues during the day other than the house next to us looked a bit run down with some garbage outside.  We found out the property was an upper and lower rental and I talked to the landlord about cleaning up the garbage.  The conversation went well and we moved forward.  When my wife met the new tenants to give them the keys they noticed a dead dear with a tarp over it in the neighbors backyard.  She again worked with the tenants next door and their landlord to get it removed and disposed of as we can't have rotting animals in the backyard in the middle of the city, honestly I don't even know how that would have ended up there.  Now our tenants have been there for about 3 weeks and every night there is shouting, people coming and going, and loud music in their driveway which butts up against our house from 10pm - 3:30am.  This is keeping our tenants up, along with their small children.  With all the random cars that keep showing up to the house for 10 minutes a pop and then leaving and it being all different people I think this could be a drug problem.  Last weekend someone who went to that house actually abandoned a car in the driveway of our property and it had to be towed.

I am someone who isn't afraid of conflict or having a tough conversation.  I have tried to handle this situation by talking to the neighboring tenants and the landlord.  The conversations have always gone well but we are still having the noise issues.  They did clean up the garbage and remove the deer but the people coming and going along with the noise is the biggest issue.  Ultimately I am worried about protecting our business's reputation, the safety of our tenants, and having a viable rental.  I did work with the police on Monday to explain the situation and see if they could help and I told the landlord next door that I took this action.  If issues were going on at my property I would like to know about it and have a chance to fix it first.  I have also been asking the landlord what it's going to take to remove the tenants that are and issue.

I am sure others on here have delt with similar situations and I was curious if you had any advice on things I should try?