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All Forum Posts by: Pavlos Kasselouris

Pavlos Kasselouris has started 37 posts and replied 197 times.

Post: Investing in the Daytona Beach area

Pavlos KasselourisPosted
  • Project Engineer
  • Miami Beach, FL
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 64

Welcome! 

Yeah, I keep away from Holly Hill as well...too rough for my taste.

For now I have investments in Port Orange and south of ISB but Im thinking of going aggressively after MFH.

Gl!

Post: Do you track your NET WORTH?

Pavlos KasselourisPosted
  • Project Engineer
  • Miami Beach, FL
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Jon Klaus:

The bank wants an updated personal financial statement for each new loan, so I update then. I also update after I sell a property.  

A PFS is your balance sheet.  What business wouldn't monitor and manage its balance sheet?  When it's rock solid, banks fall over themselves for your business.  

 Is there a reason when I went to refi a property and they created a PFS according to my last years tax return?

Post: Do you track your NET WORTH?

Pavlos KasselourisPosted
  • Project Engineer
  • Miami Beach, FL
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Chris Stromdahl:

Just did.

Check out Mint.com

The best.

 Awesome! Good to know this post reached at least one person, makes me feel great! 

Personally now that I saw a ton of investors having and actively using a personal financial statement with their lenders, I will start one as well to log in all in a cool excel spread sheet, that will so historically from day one actual numbers that each property perfomed in one place. I do have Income and expense reports from every property so it wont be that hard to gather the data.  

Post: Closed on Rental Property #19 in Grandview, MO

Pavlos KasselourisPosted
  • Project Engineer
  • Miami Beach, FL
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 64

Thats awesome @Cliff Harrison! #19 is a great number! Could you share how have you managed financing till now? Have you had to pay off some loans on other properties in order to allow yourself to grow?

Post: Do you track your NET WORTH?

Pavlos KasselourisPosted
  • Project Engineer
  • Miami Beach, FL
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Roy N.:
Originally posted by @Stephen Hundley:

@Pavlos Kasselouris

I'm just like you man, I track it monthly and since I started it grows more and more each month!

 Psst!  Wanna know a secret?   

If you are making good deals, keeping your units full and your turnover down, your net worth will grow more and more each month even if you only look at it 1 - 4 times a year ;-)

 Unfortunately that's not true, because if you increase your liabilities or your spending your NET worth might go down, stay the same or not increase as much as you thought it would.

Post: Do you track your NET WORTH?

Pavlos KasselourisPosted
  • Project Engineer
  • Miami Beach, FL
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 64

@Curtis Bidwell and @Andrew Syrios Is it easy to find a sample of personal financial statement? Will this help me with any commercial deals or prortfolio lenders I go for in the future?

Post: Do you track your NET WORTH?

Pavlos KasselourisPosted
  • Project Engineer
  • Miami Beach, FL
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @David Robertson:

I'd also recommend PersonalCapital because it gives you a great overall picture of your cash, investments, property values & monthly expenses...

It uses these figures to track your overall 'Net Worth'...

...It's always fun to see that net worth trend line pointing up!

 Thats exactly what Mint does. I can also enter private loans. But as i stated above I will look personal capital.

It is nice when it points up, its very addictive. I was the same way with my poker bankroll when i was playing poker.

Post: Do you track your NET WORTH?

Pavlos KasselourisPosted
  • Project Engineer
  • Miami Beach, FL
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Mindy Jensen:

@Pavlos Kasselouris, my husband checks it every day. He thinks of it as a game - how much can I make it go up by tomorrow?

We use Personal Capital, which is better for keeping track of investments. Mint is great for keeping track of spending.

 Yes, it is like game, but daily i find it to extreme, since it would fluctuate a lot with some big expenses, unless you make daily a lot of money. I do it montly since thats when i get rent payments pay loans etc. If i had a business i would probably do it weekly. Ill have a look at Personal Capital.

Post: Do you track your NET WORTH?

Pavlos KasselourisPosted
  • Project Engineer
  • Miami Beach, FL
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @JD Martin:

I do but informally; when you are talking real estate, it is hard to get too precise because you cannot pin down the worth of land or buildings on any given day. What you can get from selling the property depends on many factors, some in your control and others not. It is not like looking at a stock chart, which is essentially today's price minus fees.

I plan doing a quarterly CMA and subtract closing costs to calculate real estate. I dont want to sell anyway so thats just typical and to be able to judge whether to refi or not at the future. Maybe i will need to have a second mortgage on them, or I want to calculate my return in equity. Useful number either case.

Post: Do you track your NET WORTH?

Pavlos KasselourisPosted
  • Project Engineer
  • Miami Beach, FL
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Pavlos Kasselouris I look and think about it maybe quarterly but not often.. In my opinion, it is a kind of worthless figure.. I care about how much I make, my expenses, my debt etc...

 Nick my reasoning is firstly that you cannot correct what you dont measure. So I guess besides the calculation of the performance of an individual investment, net worth gives the bigger picture. Its not how much you make, its how much you have on your asset column. That's what will give you ultimately your financial freedom, right?

Second it gives me motivation and helps me be patient. Buy and hold investing is soooo slow, to the point its boring, so with this way I try giving some sort of interest.