All Forum Posts by: Daria B.

 Well this is a first and it happened. 

While I can't get the details I am given enough to say yes or no. And I have turned down some - also switched PMs in the past due to their bar being set to high that all would fail the screening for which the PM put the onerous on the owner to accept, and if they did and something went wrong, the PM would not be held accountable (stated in their contract). 

Everyone can't self manage for any number of reasons - while others may be able to do that it's just not doable for all.

 And the tenant knew when she moved in that she would be responsible for the water bill for the sprinklers and still went against the agreed terms? Sad that people agreed to things knowing they won't comply.

Good idea on the lock down.

 My rentals aren't below $1k and given all markets differ, in this one, the range of $1300+ is one that commands a good tenant, all things being equal with good credit and a bank account. If here were a grading system, mine would be B's. In this case it was tenant screening that they got through.

Signs were tell tale later onto the rent period and I knew I was not renewing them. Juxtaposed to them are one of my other tenants that treat the place great and are pro about informing the PM of any potential issues - like today with a downed tree limb on the property.

Good info on the lack of a checking account. Later into the rental period they bounced 2 checks and the PM would no longer accept from them - only cash. Again, prior to that I had already decided to not renew.

I know this is probably border line - privacy issue - if not fully frowned upon. :-|

The title of my post - these tenants had no respect for the property - why doesn't there exist (again, venting) something that landlords can document what the tenant did to the property and share it? It would not be anything other than what we do now with our properties but we would be able to share that with other landlords. This would help others see just how bad/good tenants are.

Even doing the back ground check, debt 2 income, credit check all the other verifications - just doesn't always seem full proof. I've read of the professional tenant and how they manipulate the system.

Mostly venting here and telling others whether you self-manage or have a PM - get all and do all documentation pre and post tenant move.

Going through a disputed move out - pictures were taken (pre-move in and post move out) and the written documentation clearly has everything checked off as fair or good condition. 

I was mortified at the condition.

The PM did all the right things and the tenant is disputing all the SD as though there was no damage.

They broke things and didn't say a word - they glued a kitchen draw back on - glue dripping down the face of the draw and it was on crooked. :-/

They changed the front door lock, I assume they broke it since there were so many other things that were broken.

They never changed the air filter - clumps of dirt and dust on all the vents and the return register.

 Holes in the wallls and dirt all over the walls from kids hands and who knows what.

They almost burned down the house from the cooking being done with grease. Had to replace one stove and pretty much the replacement was also ruined. The cabinets took a few days to get the grease and grim off. Scratches weren't superficial but to the point of having to paint several cabinets. :-/ Crayon? Really?

Manipulative is what comes to mind knowing the condition and still they feel they are not culpable.

Ok - venting done and I'll be riding this to some sort of conclusion.

 Have you ever been in a situation where the entire sec dep was claimed due to damages - all documentation in place like photos (pre-move in, move out) and sign off sheets by tenants, etc.

Did the tenant disputes and what was the outcome?

Thanks

@John E Ceisel

I'm in Florida and it's statues I'm looking over and getting the PM involved to get an answer that you raised - i wanted to know as well.

With your CA statues does it say anything about the tenants being present? For the legal right, that would be an attorney question.

I'm looking for the same thing. I see it as, if they are present then they can't dispute the condition clearly when all are present. I don't self manage but had to take pictures after a move out because the outgoing PM person was ill equipted for the job - he was just overwhelmed. The person that is back to over see these things has always been on top of any issues.

Good luck!

@Arianne L. there are a few flippers doing some work in this area. I know of one family doing this now that are part of my Note group. It's something that I would like to get into for the experience. There are a few investor-centric realtors in the area as well.

There are plenty of us here including Ocala FL. What are you looking to do?

@Gregory Cummings

Forgot to mention mine was built 2005. Major systems in tact and working good.

I don't think it's not unlike (to much) that of a slab (stick built) home. I think differences come into play when it's a mobile home, which require different types of code enforcing and may rent a little less. Also, insurance may differ for mobile in coverage and what is required (learned from my REI workshop). These are what I encounter in my market. The insurance I have isn't any different than SFR slab. I spoke to my agent prior to buying to find out if I would encounter any differences.

I have one as a rental and get very good rent as compared to SFR. I just finished getting it ready to rent again. I bought as an investment.

Hope this helps.