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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 23 posts and replied 89 times.

Post: Paradigm Life, Infinite Banking, Whole Life Insurance

Account ClosedPosted
  • Bronx, NY
  • Posts 94
  • Votes 27
Quote from @Derek M.:
Quote from @William Joel Idleman:

I've had my life insurance license and I never sold a cash value insurance policy.  IMO it's a niche product like an annuity.  In certain, specific cases it MIGHT make sense.  Generally, cash value insurance is a trash product because the insurance agent doesn't sell it to the right person and the client doesn't understand exactly how to use it.  It's a high commission product.  That's why it gets pushed.  Ask the agent how much they are going to make off of you.  Then think about how much the insurance company needs to make off of you to cover overhead and cover this product. 

Here is where I found it makes sense to consider a cash value insurance policy.  Find a policy that has a decent return and is quality.  Agents can often over promise on this product.  Set the death benefit amount to what you need.  Borrow against it to fund property investments after you've built cash value.  An agent can run an illustration for you and tell you how much you should borrow.  It CAN be a decent place to store cash because it will give you a death benefit should something happen to you and better interest than a savings account.  I like the flexibility of being able to borrow against it.  I like that the interest rate is generally higher than the bank.

I don't like the fact that most policies keep your cash.  For example, if you die and you have a death benefit of 100k and have paid up to 60k.  They will give you the 100k and keep the 60k.  Generally, a better return on your 60k can be found in the marketplace.  This is why you hear the phrase, "Term insurance and invest the rest."  Advisor will show you what the cash value policy costs vs term life insurance.  Then they would show you market average return on if you invested the difference.  I've yet to see a cash value policy give a better return than the "Term and invest the rest" strategy.

In summary and IMO - cash value insurance isn't a bad place to store cash should the policy be quality.  Just understand that by putting your money in this product you're making the insurance company rich.  As soon as my previous financial advising firm started to direct us to sell it as an investment, I left.  I do not believe cash value insurance policies are a good investment or should be sold as an investment.  You can find much better returns in other places.

Let the games begin on shredding my opinion!  hahaha


I often say about 70% of LI Agents don't know how to set these up, and especially don't know how to use them. They may know and offer "whole life insurance" but that's like saying "I can set up an IRA". Okay, and? Many can create the bucket, but most don't know how to fill it - what matters is how it's made... just like "having an IRA" gives no clue as to what it's invested in. Another 20% or so of agents only set up marginally effective policies that only look good because the 70% look so bad. Very few give everything they got and avoid making big $$. Sadly, the worse the policy is for the client the more the agent makes. The better the policy is for the client the less the agent makes. Now, put that formula out in the wild and you can imagine where most agents line up... unfortunately.


Anyone reading this must do their homework very thoroughly.


Post: Assumable Mortgages - creative financing

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  • Bronx, NY
  • Posts 94
  • Votes 27

I may be interested. I have a property in the allison hill area. 

Post: Assumable Mortgages - creative financing

Account ClosedPosted
  • Bronx, NY
  • Posts 94
  • Votes 27

Dm me. I may know someone who may be interested depending on location

Post: Looking for a tenant

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  • Bronx, NY
  • Posts 94
  • Votes 27

@Nathan G. I'm in Pennsylvania. My fear is another moratorium. Thanks for your input.

Post: Looking for a tenant

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  • Bronx, NY
  • Posts 94
  • Votes 27

@Nathan G.Thanks for your response. I know it comes with risk renting to section 8. But there is risk in renting to any tenant. I know some investors that went through a rough patch during the pandemic. The only thing that kept them going is what they got from the their section 8 tenants. I just would like to have some section 8 in with regular non subsidized tenants. I personally don't believe listing the rental only on the section 8 site is a violation of fair housing rules. Is my thinking flawed?

Post: Looking for a tenant

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  • Bronx, NY
  • Posts 94
  • Votes 27

I currently have a apartment ready for rent. I have a property manager managing the property. I would like a section 8 tenant for this property so I want to market it on the section 8 website exclusively. I was told that this might violate fair housing laws. My question is why, if this is true , can't I decide where to market my property. Why am I obligated to put the property out on the market for any tenant. Thanks in advance

Post: Considering PA to invest in realestate

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  • Bronx, NY
  • Posts 94
  • Votes 27

@Alexander M. Update: We purchased 2 single family houses and 1 three unit house. With the help of our realtor (Beck Joyner) I think we got pretty good deals. The hardest part is finding reliable contractors. The homes in the Harrisburg area where we purchased are old, some close to 100 years so you can imagine the reno it needs. But all in all it has been a learning experience. Honestly It gets frustrating sometimes ,but once you done with reno and place a tenant you get that desire to look for the next deal.

Post: Investment Property Lenders (DSCR / Non-QR / Cash Flow Loans)

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  • Bronx, NY
  • Posts 94
  • Votes 27

@Drew Blakely can you share that info with me as well. Thanks

Post: New OOS multifamily Investor

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  • Bronx, NY
  • Posts 94
  • Votes 27

@Lane Kawaoka. I too invest in Harrisburg pa. Are you finding it difficult to find good contractors. I live in new York and to get someone that could do the work is extremely difficult for me. Do you have the same problem 

Post: Replacing rubber with metal on roof

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  • Bronx, NY
  • Posts 94
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I'm currently rehabbing a rental property. I have a upper roof and lower roof. It's a very old house(1900)  Both roofs are leaking and it was recommended to me that a should replace the rubber roof with metal. Has anyone had any experience with this. Is it better than rubber. I imagine so because of the material. It is definitely more expensive so is it worth the cost. Looking forward to the feedback 

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