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All Forum Posts by: Travis Elliott

Travis Elliott has started 78 posts and replied 280 times.

Post: Mobile home insurance suggestions

Travis ElliottPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cebu, Philippines
  • Posts 297
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Travis Elliott:
Originally posted by @Jeffrey H.:

You need to call Mobile Insurance, ask for Patsy who is their senior commercial specialist.  They offer extremely competitive coverage in most states across the country.  They're based out of Texas, give them a Google.  There are so many variations nationwide I don't know if I can state a price that would be close to accurate.

Good luck!

 Thank you.. I will give them a try.

 I just gave them a Google and found nothing. Do you have the number Jeff?

Post: Mobile home insurance suggestions

Travis ElliottPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cebu, Philippines
  • Posts 297
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Jeffrey H.:

You need to call Mobile Insurance, ask for Patsy who is their senior commercial specialist.  They offer extremely competitive coverage in most states across the country.  They're based out of Texas, give them a Google.  There are so many variations nationwide I don't know if I can state a price that would be close to accurate.

Good luck!

 Thank you.. I will give them a try.

Post: Cheyenne mobile home rehabbers

Travis ElliottPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cebu, Philippines
  • Posts 297
  • Votes 5

I would say any decent contractor would do it.

Post: Mobile home insurance suggestions

Travis ElliottPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cebu, Philippines
  • Posts 297
  • Votes 5

So i am closing on a small park soon and I am wondering who you guys like for mobile home park insurance?

My park is in the western US and is 25 spots total. 16 of them are park owned. 

Any ideas on how much it will cost per Mo/year?

Thanks in advance. 

Post: Need referral to private money lender

Travis ElliottPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cebu, Philippines
  • Posts 297
  • Votes 5

Robert cant you go to your bank and get a HELOC loan on the condos? I just did this with three of my homes and it was a painless transaction.

Keep us updated and good luck to you.

Post: Central Florida - 65 lots

Travis ElliottPosted
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  • Cebu, Philippines
  • Posts 297
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what do the lots rent for?

Post: Thoughts on what this park is worth? i need to make an offer

Travis ElliottPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cebu, Philippines
  • Posts 297
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Originally posted by @Ken Rishel:

private reply via bigger pockets. you could also look at my profile.

 You have mail

Post: Free Property Analysis Worksheet

Travis ElliottPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cebu, Philippines
  • Posts 297
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Originally posted by @Joshua Dorkin:

Michael Rogers of Chandler Properties provided the following Excel Worksheet for BiggerPockets to share with all of our members.

REI Property Analyzer

We hope you all find it comes in handy.

NOTE: If anyone else has their own worksheet that they'd like to share, please get in touch.

Hi josh

Is there another version of this spread sheet? I dont have microsoft office on my pc so it wont open.

Possibly a version that opens with another format?

Post: Thoughts on what this park is worth? i need to make an offer

Travis ElliottPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cebu, Philippines
  • Posts 297
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Ken Rishel:
Originally posted by @Travis Elliott:

In regards to the park owned homes do you have a system or a way that you sell mobiles to tenants that makes them dod frank compliant? Can you explain your process?

One problem is that you can buy old stick built homes for 40,000. They are typically a 2/1 or a  3/1 sometimes with a garage and with the land of course. 

So there isnt a market of people who want to move manufactured  homes on to a rented lot.  Owning their own land house and garage for 300.00 a month is much more enticing.

Travis - Since I believe this park is in the Dakotas, I worry that my experience is not terribly extensive although I did partner on a park development (since sold) several years ago during the shale oil boom.

There are many parts of the country where local ordinances and zoning are nightmares but have almost no trouble filling at sizable lot rents and other parts of the country where the local authorities and zoning is little or no problem but the owner has to work harder for residents.

Before I did much more in any direction, I would invest some time and money in a true market analysis. If you don't have a good idea how to do that, send me an email directly so I can send you a long PDF attachment that will help.

I have yet to run into a situation personally where there weren't pretty good solutions for but, you need to know your true potential market before jumping in with advertising and sales efforts, or even buying additional homes. Certainly the 40K stick built adds to the challenge, but I believe it can be overcome.

The only way to sell homes without a lending license or some joint venture relationship is for cash.

Good Luck!

 kEN WHAT IS YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS?

Post: Thoughts on what this park is worth? i need to make an offer

Travis ElliottPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cebu, Philippines
  • Posts 297
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Marc C.:

Some random thoughts to consider:

I always try to separate the park from the homes and negotiate them separately. 

Your goal is ALWAYS to turn rental homes into tenant-owned homes, through rent-to-own arrangements or selling them on contracts. (Must meet Dodd-Frank and CFPB rules!) 

I think that, on the quality of homes you are talking about, if I can get 36 mos. of home rent from folks, and make them responsible for repairs and maintenance, I'd just give them the trailer at the end. Their value right now is 36 x rent, at the most. 

I would want to put the homes in their own LLC and value them at no more than rent x 36 mos...and that's if I'm being really negotiable with the seller. I wouldn't try to value them based on cash flow or cap rate; that's what the Seller wants, though. (They are a LIABILITY, not an asset, because they cost money to remove.)

What's the park worth if you removed every rental home, based on, say, a 10% cap rate? Negotiate from there. 

Personally, this project sounds like a HUGE headache, and I would need some phenomenal rate of return to make it worth my while. 

 Thanks for the reply Marc

In regards to the park owned homes do you have a system or a way that you sell mobiles to tenants that makes them dod frank compliant? Can you explain your process?

As far as the park value is concerned it has some additional spots that I didnt mention in the first post. There are 7 additional spots an another part of the property. The sewer main had a leak so the owner capped the sewer pipe off a couple of years ago. I think that I could have new schedule 40 ran for about five thousand dollars. This would fix the sewer problem

So with the seven adittional spots there are a  total of 25 spots on this property. 

If they were all rented ( they are not) it would look something like this

250 x 12 x 25 = 75,000 x .60 x10 = 450,000.

One problem is that you can buy old stick built homes for 40,000. They are typically a 2/1 or a  3/1 sometimes with a garage and with the land of course. 

So there isnt a market of people who want to move manufactured  homes on to a rented lot.  Owning their own land house and garage for 300.00 a month is much more enticing.

Now due to the fact that people are not looking to move homes on and due to the fact  that I have eight empty spots  I have to consider owning the homes in order to get rent from each spot. 

Here is a best case example of the park with me owning a home for every spot.

25 spots at 600.00 a moth  = 15,000 - 3000 for monthly expense = 12,000 a month profit. 

That would be a nice income off of this one park.