All Forum Posts by: Jerryll Noorden

 It is a bit childish to nitpick just to try to seem intelligent don't you think?

Then let's ban the word free from our vocabulary. 

Baking your own bread is not free, because you had to buy eggs. Making your own clothes is not free because you have to buy the materials.Walking to work is not free because you had to buy shoes to put on your feet right? You know very well what is meant by "free". I didn't pay anyone to do my SEO for me. I did it myself for free and I am empowering everyone they can do it for free too. There is no need to pay anyone for it,  just like I didn't pay anyone to do it for me. Learn how to do it, and do it for free.

I left BP for a reason, and now that I am back it is worse than ever. Everyone trying to come across as "smart", "I am better/smarter" than him, by obsessively trying to find SOMETHING to correct in every post. It is stupid, childish and tiring.

Do what you will with this comment. I don't feel you are worth it to bicker back and forth laser focusing on a tiny word "free" and make a whole post about it. Have a blessed day man

In a few weeks, we are releasing a new way to off-load your properties. It will change the entire landscape of real estate investing.

Till then, the best way to get buyers is to get a good deal. It has always been such a puzzle to me that so many people have not yet figured it out. There is no need to find buyers when you have a good deal. 

If you need to spend money or effort trying to find buyers, you are jumping the gun. You are doing something wrong.

All of you need to focus on VALUE to your ideal audience.

STEP 1:

Who is your ideal audience? Cash buyers, and motivated sellers. OK

STEP 2:

What does value look like to those 2 audiences?

CASH BUYERS: Want Good Deals

MOTIVATED SELLERS: Want their houses sold fast.

STEP 3:

Provide that value. Want to attract cash buyers? Have good deals. If you do you will never have trouble finding cash buyers because they will come to you.

It is as simple as that!

Are you kidding?!

Do a google search for 

"we buy houses [city] [state]"

Sell my house

who buys houses

cash for my house

legitimate cash buyers, all with city state.

99.9999999% of all websites out there are wholesalers.

Then go to facebook and do a group search for "investors, cash buyers, wholesaler" then your city state.

First, everyone should get this simple thing straight.

There is a huge difference between a lead and a prospect.

A prospect is what YOU think may BECOME a lead. A lead is a person that expressed explicit interest in acquiring your product or service.

When a prospect fills in your form of their own accord, THAT is a lead.

So before I answer, what do you call a "warm" lead?

A cold lead would be someone that expressed interest but has not taken it further.

A warm lead is someone that has expressed interest and  did an adsional step, like you have spoken before (or already) and is still interested.

Now that this is out of the way.

My question is,  do you still stand by your question? You are looking for a company to give you WARM leads?

Or simply prospects?

You start to see what this is important yes?

Believe me I have yet to come across ANY company that even knows the actual definition of a lead. If companies could get you LEADS, ... TRUST ME, EVERYONE would be using that company.

All these companies are giving you prospects. Not leads. A very very few do. And when they do, it defeats the purpose.

A true lead is someone who expressed interest in YOUR service.. not just  ANYONE's service. So even if these companies gave you pure bonified SEO leads,  they were expecting to deal with THEM, not you.

People do not understand the psychology of a conversion.  We have done nearly a decade of actual conversion analysis, and that is the reason no one figured lead generation out and why so many simply do it wrong.

Drop these "companies" and focus on generating your own leads through SEO.

 All free, all ACTUAL leads, all effortless.

This is true lead gen (These are not my leads. These are leads from Miles,  a student of ours in California).

Get your own. Nothing beats your own off-market motivated seller leads.

 OK so you are saying...

Most attorneys won't want to risk it.

Yet your tile of the post says: "New law makes wholesaling illegal is SC"

I have had my issues with you for years already mainly because you can never admit you are wrong.

So which is it?

Is it LEGAL but most attorneys won't risk it?

Or are you going to keep trying to be right by continuously changing your narrative as people prove you wrong?

Man I am not sure why I keep getting involved with this crap.

Guys.. have fun ..

I need to make some money!

 That has nothing to do with the law and legalities of wholesaling which is the premise of the post. Some of you are more interested in pushing an opinion/agenda then pushing actual data.

It is tiring!

You may have your opinion and that's great. Don't dress it up as fact or data.

You think it is illegal. Stop doing it. Let those that know better do it.

 The EFF are you going to scare the entire board by purposely omitting that ONE sentence CLEARLY stating  Wholesaling is A OK and then when called out on it,  use mere opinion to validate your scare tactics.

That is the reason I am no longer active on these forums. For crying out loud man.

What is your agenda here? Seriously?!

And ALSO...

I still want to see what they define as "Marketing a property".

If I organize a BBQ party with all my friends that so happen to be on my buyer's list and during a bear dad joke I say " Ohh btw guys, I just locked up a contract want to see it?" 

Is that "marketing" too?

 And I get that.

And that is not at all what I am talking about.

Reread this entire rant about wholesaling.

One (small ) part is about the legalities of wholesaling.

And a huge part is just crapping on wholesaling and wholesalers based on personal opinions that show how friggin daft most of responders are. If wholesaling was about intelligence most of you would fail miserably. The entire premise of this entire rant is just dumb,  as in stupid, as in no effort of using actual intelligence.

Those are 2 entirely different topics.

I am not going to argue or debate this boring age-old debate of the ethics of wholesaling much like I am not going to debate whether or not guns are evil. 

It is a tool.

I find it pathetic that most of will try to find ANY reason to crap on wholesaling even when the main topic was not even dealing with it. 

Get it?

Anyway, I should never have gotten myself involved because I am legitimately allergic to stupidity and ignorance.

I get hives!

So I am out.

Take my advice, everyone. Go start a Wholesale Haters Anonymous club and keep stocking each other's egos.

pathetic

And BTW?

If most people do wholesaling wrong and illegally, for crap's sake then educate the masses on how to do it right. Like I am doing.

Instead what good does crapping on wholesalers do?

No, really.

Tell me.

What good is this entire BS thread do .. to ANYONE?

Is this just a quest for "likes" and votes? Is this a popularity contest to you all?

Do something productive rather than this. I wish I had y'all's kind of time on my hands to waste it on absolute mind-numbing stupidity.

Y'all still love to crap on wholesaling I see.

It is still beyond me to go to a wholesaling forum where people are supposed to help, educate learn, and teach, instead you just to call wholesalers frauds, adding no value and or everything else said.

I know for a fact that this is not true as we have been honest, and transparent upfront and the seller had no other way out then wholesale it and after explaining it to them even when given the option fo rus buying it in cash they decided to give wholesaling a try.

The takeaway is this.

You are not the seller, who the hell are you to decide for the seller that it is not for them?

People, why go to a wholesaling group where people want to wholesale and stroke each other's ego, about how wholesalers are dirt?

It is like joining a vegan club and crap on vegans because people are meant to eat meat. WHAT IS THE POINT?!

Do you really not see how flat-out STOOOPID this is?

Sheesh guys. Just stop!

GO from the Wholesale haters anonymously club. Meet once a week, hell go 2ce a week. rent a hotel conference room and go have fun down talking wholesaling and wholesalers. Just don't do it here. So not the place.

wow!

just sad.