All Forum Posts by: John Williams
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Post: Long Distance BRRRR Advice

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- Clarksville, TN
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Quote from @Zach Wagner:
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Hey there everyone! I'm a newbie to real estate investing and I have been stuck in analysis paralysis. I've been trying to gain as much knowledge as I can before pulling the trigger on a property. I live in CA and I'm looking to invest out of state. I was wondering if anyone knows of good cities to BRRRR in this current market. I'm looking for properties in the B or C class neighborhoods. Primarily single family homes (all in purchase + rehab around $100k). My main focus is cash flow but I would love for the property to appreciate over time as well. Thanks in advance, any advice or insight helps.
Make sure you check out Clarksville, TN (where cash flow meets appreciation!) We've got a very attractive market, particularly for out of state investors
Thank you, I will give it a look! If it fits my needs I will be coming to you for some property management questions and maybe we can team up.
That would be awesome! Feel free to give me a call any time, I'd love to share with you more about what our market has to offer!
Post: California Vs Out of State (really, but why?)

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- Clarksville, TN
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Quote from @Osazee Edebiri:
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Appreciation is always a gamble - the past will not necessarily look like the future (especially in California). If you can still find cash flow, that is a different story. However, if you are betting on appreciation alone, you should be able to service the debt/expenses in some capacity just in case your assets don't appreciate as fast as you'd like.
In my market, you can leverage $1,000,000 and pick up 15-20 solid homes that produce decent cash flow and appreciation!
See that sounds cool at first, but 15-20 homes vs 1, 2 or 3 California homes for $1m. How much rent do you get on a home that cheap? These are roughly 50 to 65k houses?
You're looking at a quality $200k home, B-neighborhood, that rents for $1500, and that has appreciated between 10-25% / year over the last 3-6 years
Post: Long Distance BRRRR Advice

- Property Manager
- Clarksville, TN
- Posts 439
- Votes 208
Quote from @Quentin Jivery:
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Quote from @Zach Wagner:
Hey there everyone! I'm a newbie to real estate investing and I have been stuck in analysis paralysis. I've been trying to gain as much knowledge as I can before pulling the trigger on a property. I live in CA and I'm looking to invest out of state. I was wondering if anyone knows of good cities to BRRRR in this current market. I'm looking for properties in the B or C class neighborhoods. Primarily single family homes (all in purchase + rehab around $100k). My main focus is cash flow but I would love for the property to appreciate over time as well. Thanks in advance, any advice or insight helps.
Make sure you check out Clarksville, TN (where cash flow meets appreciation!) We've got a very attractive market, particularly for out of state investors
I'll shoot you a message so we can set up a call!
Post: Florida rentals (out of state investor)

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- Clarksville, TN
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Make sure you check out Clarksville, TN (where cash flow meets appreciation!). I've got a team in place to assist out of state investors like yourself get started with a portfolio. We are a full-service, "A to Z" real estate brokerage and property management company that caters to out of state investors.
Cheers!
Post: Long Distance BRRRR Advice

- Property Manager
- Clarksville, TN
- Posts 439
- Votes 208
Quote from @Zach Wagner:
Hey there everyone! I'm a newbie to real estate investing and I have been stuck in analysis paralysis. I've been trying to gain as much knowledge as I can before pulling the trigger on a property. I live in CA and I'm looking to invest out of state. I was wondering if anyone knows of good cities to BRRRR in this current market. I'm looking for properties in the B or C class neighborhoods. Primarily single family homes (all in purchase + rehab around $100k). My main focus is cash flow but I would love for the property to appreciate over time as well. Thanks in advance, any advice or insight helps.
Make sure you check out Clarksville, TN (where cash flow meets appreciation!) We've got a very attractive market, particularly for out of state investors
Post: California Vs Out of State (really, but why?)

- Property Manager
- Clarksville, TN
- Posts 439
- Votes 208
Appreciation is always a gamble - the past will not necessarily look like the future (especially in California). If you can still find cash flow, that is a different story. However, if you are betting on appreciation alone, you should be able to service the debt/expenses in some capacity just in case your assets don't appreciate as fast as you'd like.
In my market, you can leverage $1,000,000 and pick up 15-20 solid homes that produce decent cash flow and appreciation!
Post: Is SoCal just bad to invest for cashflow over all?

- Property Manager
- Clarksville, TN
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Quote from @Xiao Xiong:
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I just started to learn about the BRRR, had an investment property in SoCal sold it. As I learn more and more, looking to start building cashflow portfolio.
The more research i do the more it suggested that California does not suit for our investment strategy of generating cashflow. I know I'm new to this, am i doing my math wrong?
As much as i would like to build portfolio locally, with understanding of it all come down to whether the number make sense, i am starting doing my research out of the state. Would be great if some of you with more experience can share some thoughts!
I am also looking for recommendation of CPA to work with that understand the real estate investing.
There are many folks facing that same challenge! My company has seen a lot of demand from out of state investors who are in a similar boat. Out of state investors love Clarksville, TN because we have a great balance of cash flow and appreciation. We offer a great alternative to investors from those higher-priced markets.
If you have a great team in place, investing outside of your own back yard isn't all that different. Being able to see/drive to you property is basically just a mental hurdle you should try to overcome. In fact, some folks would be better off if they didn't have the ability to drive to their property every weekend! Life is all about leverage - "who" not "how." Who can you leverage to help you achieve your investing goals?
David Greene's book on Long-Distance Real Estate Investing is also great resource!
Cheers!
Thanks John! Will definately look gor options on long D investing. I feel like with the current market is hard to find something CF already, plus the management fees almost killed every senario im calculating ...
Let me know if my team will be able to assist!
Post: Is SoCal just bad to invest for cashflow over all?

- Property Manager
- Clarksville, TN
- Posts 439
- Votes 208
Quote from @Xiao Xiong:
I just started to learn about the BRRR, had an investment property in SoCal sold it. As I learn more and more, looking to start building cashflow portfolio.
The more research i do the more it suggested that California does not suit for our investment strategy of generating cashflow. I know I'm new to this, am i doing my math wrong?
As much as i would like to build portfolio locally, with understanding of it all come down to whether the number make sense, i am starting doing my research out of the state. Would be great if some of you with more experience can share some thoughts!
I am also looking for recommendation of CPA to work with that understand the real estate investing.
There are many folks facing that same challenge! My company has seen a lot of demand from out of state investors who are in a similar boat. Out of state investors love Clarksville, TN because we have a great balance of cash flow and appreciation. We offer a great alternative to investors from those higher-priced markets.
If you have a great team in place, investing outside of your own back yard isn't all that different. Being able to see/drive to you property is basically just a mental hurdle you should try to overcome. In fact, some folks would be better off if they didn't have the ability to drive to their property every weekend! Life is all about leverage - "who" not "how." Who can you leverage to help you achieve your investing goals?
David Greene's book on Long-Distance Real Estate Investing is also great resource!
Cheers!
Post: Lending For Out Of State Investing

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- Clarksville, TN
- Posts 439
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Quote from @Michael Bryant:
When trying to find a lender for out of state investing, should you apply to banks/credit unions in the state you are investing or where you live?
I've had luck connecting with local folks in the market where the property is located. It isn't mandatory but those local banks/credit unions often have the best customer service, can be a little bit flexible, and are more willing to work with you!
Post: First time home buyer

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- Clarksville, TN
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Quote from @Jerell Edmonds:
Hello Everyone! Im a newbie looking to get into the world of real estate investing. I currently live in RI. The house prices seem a little too high for my comfortability to begin I mean I don't mind because I know how LTR work for multi family. But my question is I've been doing some research out of state an Ohio seems like a decent area. Im looking in the Toledo & Cleveland for MF. I do have another partner involved with the goal of building an amazing portfolio of multi family for LTR or even SFH with LTR . We want to build a passive income so we can leave our w2. We're looking to scale quickly we do have a decent amount of funds saved up. We also have maybe 80k in available lines of credit I know thats not the best way but that's in reserves for us . Cash flow isn't the most important thing at the moment for us but ofc its a plus its more about getting started and building we both understand money will come. Would investing out of state be the best way to start or to jump into in your home town? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Looking outside of your own back yard is a great way to get started. Many investors from some of the more expensive markets have been trending in this direction. My company has seen a lot of demand from out of state investors recently. We are located in Clarksville, TN (where cash flow meets appreciation) and we have a really resilient and stable/consistent market. Let me know if you'd like to connect!
Cheers!