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All Forum Posts by: Jordan Ray

Jordan Ray has started 24 posts and replied 376 times.

Post: Having Trouble with the BRRRR Method and Spreadsheet

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 392
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Phil Petite:
Quote from @Jordan Ray:
Quote from @Phil Petite:

Hello Everyone!

I have two rentals in Memphis. Both are 3BRs, and they both have Section 8 tenants in place. One home is being rented for $1100/month and the other is getting $1250/month. Both homes were purchased in cash, so I do not have any debt on either property.


I'd love to do a cash-out refi on either home in order to buy another rental, but I am not sure if I'm missing something with the BRRRR method and would appreciate some guidance.

Current Rentals' ARV: $125k for both (slightly conservative # here)

Purchase Price for 3rd/new rental: $100K

Rehab Needed: $2.5k (tenant currently in place, just needs punch list items taken care of)

Gross Rental Income: $1500/month

I guess what I'm having difficulty with is how much I'll be able to receive back from the re-fi that I can use towards the purchase of this 3rd property. I calculate that 75% of the ARV on a home worth $125k is around $93k, but this is where I get a bit lost in the process.

Any advice/guidance would be amazing!! Thank you in advance!!!

Here is what I would do. First do cash-out refinances on both properties. Make sure that before you do that, each property will cash-flow. Assuming they still cashflow and you proceed to do a cash out refi. Then take that money and use it on a 100% purchase and rehab on a BRRRR property where all your numbers make sense. (ARV x 70% - rehab = contract price/offer) I just had a buyer client lock up a BRRRR deal using hard money loan with Avalon Capital in Memphis. The ARV on this deal and with purchase and rehab. His ARV was $170K and he closed with only 7K. Just imagine how many deals you can buy with all that equity you have. If you need any help with this strategy, reach out. I help my clients do successful BRRRR deals all the time. I also buy myself. Goodluck!

Also, This refinance strategy on those properties is a 10 year interest only DSCR with a 30 year principal afterwards keeping his payment low for a few years so he can refi at a better rate and with more equity and keep more cashflow. He will not benefit from early equity by paying principal in his payment but will benefit from the cashflow. He also will refi again to a better DSCR loan when the rates are better. Solid strategy.


Aggressive strategy, Jordan! I like it!!! :)

I think I'd just pull the money out from only one of the two rentals that I already have, which are both cash-flowing (tenants are in place for both). I'm going to take the weekend to digest all this wonderful info from you and the other posters here, and I'll post again on Monday. Have a great weekend!


Good stuff man! Glad I can help! Goodluck to you!

Post: Having Trouble with the BRRRR Method and Spreadsheet

Jordan Ray
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 392
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Phil Petite:

Hello Everyone!

I have two rentals in Memphis. Both are 3BRs, and they both have Section 8 tenants in place. One home is being rented for $1100/month and the other is getting $1250/month. Both homes were purchased in cash, so I do not have any debt on either property.


I'd love to do a cash-out refi on either home in order to buy another rental, but I am not sure if I'm missing something with the BRRRR method and would appreciate some guidance.

Current Rentals' ARV: $125k for both (slightly conservative # here)

Purchase Price for 3rd/new rental: $100K

Rehab Needed: $2.5k (tenant currently in place, just needs punch list items taken care of)

Gross Rental Income: $1500/month

I guess what I'm having difficulty with is how much I'll be able to receive back from the re-fi that I can use towards the purchase of this 3rd property. I calculate that 75% of the ARV on a home worth $125k is around $93k, but this is where I get a bit lost in the process.

Any advice/guidance would be amazing!! Thank you in advance!!!

Here is what I would do. First do cash-out refinances on both properties. Make sure that before you do that, each property will cash-flow. Assuming they still cashflow and you proceed to do a cash out refi. Then take that money and use it on a 100% purchase and rehab on a BRRRR property where all your numbers make sense. (ARV x 70% - rehab = contract price/offer) I just had a buyer client lock up a BRRRR deal using hard money loan with Avalon Capital in Memphis. The ARV on this deal and with purchase and rehab. His ARV was $170K and he closed with only 7K. Just imagine how many deals you can buy with all that equity you have. If you need any help with this strategy, reach out. I help my clients do successful BRRRR deals all the time. I also buy myself. Goodluck!

Also, This refinance strategy on those properties is a 10 year interest only DSCR with a 30 year principal afterwards keeping his payment low for a few years so he can refi at a better rate and with more equity and keep more cashflow. He will not benefit from early equity by paying principal in his payment but will benefit from the cashflow. He also will refi again to a better DSCR loan when the rates are better. Solid strategy.

Post: Looking for Handyman in Memphis

Jordan Ray
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 392
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Ryan Swain:
Quote from @Jordan Ray:
Quote from @Ryan Swain:

I have a rental in Memphis, looking to see what someone would charge. I have a quote from my property management's preferred company, however, I do not appreciate their work. Looking for someone who has done good business with people in the past. Thank you. 

What do you need done? I use 2 different approaches depending on the situation. 

Option 1: I will use a https://www.neighborly.com/ company. Usually free estimates with plenty of pictures and then I will authorize the work.

Option 1: Bluff City Preservation | 901-632-5399

Hope that helps! Goodluck! Let me know if I can help with anything else!


 Jordan, 

Great information, Thank you. I will try that out. I have several different things that need to be accomplished very general maintenance, some paint, air filter changes, and light bulb changes. I appreciate your help. 

Ryan 


Anytime!

Post: Looking for Handyman in Memphis

Jordan Ray
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 392
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Ryan Swain:

I have a rental in Memphis, looking to see what someone would charge. I have a quote from my property management's preferred company, however, I do not appreciate their work. Looking for someone who has done good business with people in the past. Thank you. 

What do you need done? I use 2 different approaches depending on the situation. 

Option 1: I will use a https://www.neighborly.com/ company. Usually free estimates with plenty of pictures and then I will authorize the work.

Option 1: Bluff City Preservation | 901-632-5399

Hope that helps! Goodluck! Let me know if I can help with anything else!

Post: The #1 real estate agent in Memphis in 2023

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 392
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Dean Harris:

Thank you, Douglas! I'm really looking forward to what 2024 brings our clients here in Memphis!


Great work, Dean! I am looking forward to making more of a name for myself in the market. You guys are inspiring! Good stuff!

Post: Delayed Financing/cash out refi lenders for Memphis SFR

Jordan Ray
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 392
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Chris Ross:
Quote from @Jordan Ray:
Quote from @Chris Ross:

Hello, I'm going to be closing on my first SFR investment property soon via an all cash deal. After closing I'd like to do a delayed finance to use the cash for a second property. The property is in Memphis TN. I am open to any lender recommendations from those that have done the same. My thoughts are to wait until the May timeframe since I believe rates will drop a bit by then and I'll still be within the 6 month threshold for a delayed finance transaction. Is there a difference between a delayed finance or a cash out refi? They are ultimately the same thing but I know that many lenders require seasoning. Would I be better off waiting until the 6 month mark or later to do the refi? Is there a difference in rates or process? I don't have my second property picked out yet but will work with a turnkey provider once I have the funds. Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks


Have you looked into just doing a "rate & term" refinance until you can pull cash out after the 6 month seasoning?

 Thanks Jordan, that is a good idea.  I will look into a rate and term refinance.   I am paying cash for the the turnkey home and am trying to figure out the best time to pull out cash to buy a second property.  My thoughts are to wait until the next interest rate drop.   But I’ll look into rate and term. Thanks 


Your welcome.

Post: Delayed Financing/cash out refi lenders for Memphis SFR

Jordan Ray
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 392
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Chris Ross:

Hello, I'm going to be closing on my first SFR investment property soon via an all cash deal. After closing I'd like to do a delayed finance to use the cash for a second property. The property is in Memphis TN. I am open to any lender recommendations from those that have done the same. My thoughts are to wait until the May timeframe since I believe rates will drop a bit by then and I'll still be within the 6 month threshold for a delayed finance transaction. Is there a difference between a delayed finance or a cash out refi? They are ultimately the same thing but I know that many lenders require seasoning. Would I be better off waiting until the 6 month mark or later to do the refi? Is there a difference in rates or process? I don't have my second property picked out yet but will work with a turnkey provider once I have the funds. Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks


Have you looked into just doing a "rate & term" refinance until you can pull cash out after the 6 month seasoning?

Post: 1st Rental in Memphis

Jordan Ray
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 392
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Phil Petite:

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $54,000
Cash invested: $110,000

SFH in Memphis with Section 8 tenant in place!

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

It was my comeback deal in real estate

How did you finance this deal?

Cash

How did you add value to the deal?

We fully renovated the property

Lessons learned? Challenges?

It was my first time dealing with mold remediation, and it wasn't too bad at all! :)

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Tjuania Redmond - Agent
Marcus Walker - Contractor


 Golden! Good job! I love seeing others succeed! 

Post: Investing OOS in Mississippi/South Memphis Area

Jordan Ray
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 392
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Monica Weesner:

I've noticed a few companies are building manufacturing type jobs in the MS/East TN area and I'm thinking of looking at this area for an OOS SF LTR unit. I'm curious to know if anyone has had any experiences in that area/market you are willing to share. Any agents or property managers/vendors you like in that area? Any advice as I look into that area with some new job growth is greatly appreciated! 


Memphis is THE place known for transportation & logistics! I actually drove 18 wheelers for 4 years and worked in warehouses before that. North Mississippi is catching alot of growth as a result of expansion in Memphis. There is a bunch new warehouses opening up like Amazon facilities and others in Byhalia which is east of Olive Branch. Olive Branch is also getting alot of new warehousing in & around polk lane. There has been some warehouses being built in the Hernando area as well as entire communities of SFH. Memphis is the best place to invest (In my opinion) in the United States. (Probably biased) I am born and raised in Memphis and I LOVE it here and love investing here & transacting real estate as well. Let me know if I can help with anything!

Post: The very first question to ask a real estate agent

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 392
  • Votes 186
Quote from @Douglas Skipworth:

Thanks, @Jordan Ray.  Somebody's going to have their best year ever in 2024.  It might as well be you!


Yes sir! and anyone else that wants to jump on this grind haha.. lets get it!