Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 16%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$39 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Try Pro Features for Free
Start your 7 day free trial. Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties.
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Nichole Stohler

Nichole Stohler has started 8 posts and replied 112 times.

Post: San Francisco Bay Summit - Oct 7 & 8, 2017 - Join the Reunion!

Nichole Stohler
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 136

tagging @David Lecko, a fellow Hoosier (my home state) who is thinking of traveling to SFO for the summit!   

Post: San Francisco Bay Summit - Oct 7 & 8, 2017 - Join the Reunion!

Nichole Stohler
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 136

@J. Martin,  very excited for the event and the opportunity to meet other investors!   

Haves:

Information :)   We just moved from 20-50 unit multi-family properties to our first flagged mid-service hotel this year. Happy to share our experience with this so far including the good and bad we are seeing compared to multifamily.  

Property - Cash flowing SFHs in Arizona with great returns.

Wants:

Feedback, ideas and rules around raising private money.   

Post: I finally moved to a self-directed IRA and here’s what happened

Nichole Stohler
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 136

@Mark Senecal, glad to hear you found something that works for your SDIRA!   I remember we were both researching about the same time.   Necessary but a bit confusing and sometimes painful research....

Post: I finally moved to a self-directed IRA and here’s what happened

Nichole Stohler
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 136

@Carl Fischer,  agreed!   While the market has been up for quite some time now, I was just waiting for the next news story that made everyone freak out.

I've actually been working with CamaPlan on this project and the experience has been great!

Post: I finally moved to a self-directed IRA and here’s what happened

Nichole Stohler
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 136

@Franklin Fletcher, they recommended CamaPlan...     Prior to that, I'd been reading all these reviews on custodians and became almost paralyzed since there were just as many bad as good reviews.    Painful... 

Post: I finally moved to a self-directed IRA and here’s what happened

Nichole Stohler
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 136

@Dmitriy Fomichenko, exactly!   We have our active investments but needed something passive as well.  

Post: I finally moved to a self-directed IRA and here’s what happened

Nichole Stohler
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 136

@John Thedford, thanks for your comment!  I'm in a couple of funds so the range is 10-12%.  

Post: I finally moved to a self-directed IRA and here’s what happened

Nichole Stohler
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 136

Sometimes you just need the easy button.

A way to meet all your investing requirements.

From someone you trust.

That was me.

My requirements? I needed to find a passive real estate income stream that would work within the IRS' self-directed IRA (SDIRA) rules. I wanted consistent better returns than the stock market. And, I wanted to work with someone I could trust.

Trust… well that’s tricky isn't it? How do you figure out who you can trust to handle your money?

Let me back up a bit.

I had a Roth IRA that was going nowhere. This account stayed at the same number for years but I didn't really think about it. Maybe you can relate? It didn't seem like a big deal to just leave it. I couldn't touch it for a long time and it wasn't that much money. Except -- it could be worth more if I put it somewhere else. Now, I had to figure out how to move the funds. And, where should I invest?

At first, I looked at the various real estate crowdfunding sites. There’s many to choose from. In fact, too many. I found myself overwhelmed with all the options. Probably got into a bit of analysis paralysis at this point.

Around the same time, I caught a BiggerPockets podcast featuring Dave Van Horn on note investing. Notes? Now that was a side of real estate that I hadn’t explored. In the podcast, Dave shared his background in real estate, how he got into note investing and why he started his company - PPR. I was curious to learn more and liked the idea of niche diversification outside of my current active real estate business.

At this point, I’m in information overload between where to invest but also what custodian I should use to manage the SDIRA. Have you ever read Amazon.com reviews and wondered how anyone ever decides which product to buy? There are just as many negative reviews as there are positive.  This is what I experienced in trying to decide on a custodian.  Dave’s team saved me from all that. Besides answering my questions on PPR’s note investing options, they gave me a custodian recommendation. And guess what??? There were no bad reviews for the company they mentioned. Yes, I still did my own due diligence but PPR saved me hours of additional research.

Perhaps the biggest reason I ended up working with PPR is because of the BiggerPockets community validation. I saw what others had posted in forums about their positive experiences. And, I read Dave’s blog posts which are featured on BiggerPockets. I liked his perspective, his approach to investing and his “voice”.

So how has it been? Easy.

  • Investment returns automatically deposited on a regular basis.
  • Questions answered in a timely manner.
  • Excellent customer service.
  • Investor education events.

I'm glad I finally did something about the small Roth IRA that was flat-lined for many years. Now that everything is moved over, I have no idea why I put it off for so long.

If you are looking to direct your IRA into real estate, what types of investments are you considering? For those that already use a SDIRA for passive investments how has your experience been?

Post: Journey to $5M with Multi-Units: FAQ

Nichole Stohler
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 136

@Chris H.,  absolutely!  Pretty sure we missed opportunities since we'd just meet with our CPA once a year -- after decisions had already been made and some things were too late to change.

Post: Journey to $5M with Multi-Units: FAQ

Nichole Stohler
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 136

Building your team

You’ve assembled money in order to purchase your first multifamily. You know where you want to buy and you’ve pre-qualified for whichever mortgage type you’ll be using.

Now what?

It’s time to build your team.

Real Estate Agent

What should you look for in an agent? How should you approach him or her?

When we started investing again in 2011, we knew that even though we had to start small our end goal was to own large apartment complexes. Our plan always involved trading up in order to purchase large 100+ units. With this objective, we narrowed our search for a realtor to those specializing in commercial real estate. And then, within commercial real estate, we looked for agents that focused on multifamily. Searching in this niche narrowed down the potential list of agents significantly. From there, we looked at the types of listings the agent had, the events he/she participated in or was hosting and any reviews that were available.

Once you have a couple of agents you’d like to talk with, how should you prepare to meet with them? First, understand that agents get approached on a frequent basis by potential new investors that have unrealistic expectations or don’t follow through. Just like you are interviewing potential agents, a good agent will be interviewing you too. They are looking to understand if you are serious before spending any time helping you find properties. Knowing this, here’s a few ideas for the meeting.

-Share why you chose to meet with him or her.

- Ask about how he or she likes to work with investors? This is a broad question and could mean anything… which is why it’s great!

- Explain what your goals are and steps you’ve already taken. Pre-approval, research on areas, etc. Most commercial agents will require you to be pre-approved for funds prior to submitting offers.

- Ask about how the agent works specifically with new investors like yourself.

- Provide details on the kinds of property you are looking for and why. Things like size of property, purchase price, type of neighborhood (A, B, C or D) and location.

During the meeting, be open to the agent’s ideas around property types and location that might be different from your initial thoughts. Ask “why” around any recommendations. Ideally, you are looking for an agent that can help guide you -- not just sell you property.

Going back to the first agent we met with after researching our market. Why did we choose to meet with her? Some of the key items were that she focused on multifamily, was an industry veteran, hosted regular investor education events and personally invested in real estate as well.

Lawyer

For your first property, you don't need a mountain of legal paperwork. You just need a LLC and a lawyer to set this up correctly. Key benefits of a LLC are that it provides some liability protection but allows the tax burdens or losses flow to you personally. Any losses help offset your regular income and reduce your overall taxes. There are many articles on BiggerPockets about legal entity structure as well as tax benefits so I won't go into those here. What you need to know at this point is that you'll need a LLC set-up prior to closing on your first property.

How do you find a real estate attorney? The easiest way is to ask the experienced commercial agent that you are working with for a referral.

CPA

Speaking of tax benefits….When it comes time to file your taxes after purchasing your first property, I recommend working with a CPA that has experience working with real estate investors. Your agent can give you recommendations for CPAs in his or her network.

Personally, we made a huge mistake here. We already had a CPA prior to purchasing our first property and we kept working with him for several years while we were continuing to buy property. One day, I came across an article on BiggerPockets about tax benefits and realized that we had been missing opportunities to reduce our tax burden. I read the BiggerPockets book on real estate taxes and immediately sought out a CPA that could provide recommendations and advice specific to our situation. The good news is you can amend filings for up to three years from the current date but the bad news is the years prior to that are lost opportunities. Don’t make this mistake. Work with the right CPA from the beginning.

Another piece of advice in working with a CPA is to consult with him or her before you purchase any property. He or she can guide you towards the right tax-advantaged approach towards funding, entity structure and any other considerations.

Property Management

How will you manage the property? If you are planning to use a property manager instead of self-managing, this is going to be one of the most critical team members to impact your profitability and success. What are some things to look for when hiring a property manager?

Responsibilities

What will the management company handle for you? Common responsibilities include tenant communication, finding tenants, collecting rents, handling maintenance calls, facilitating evictions, coordinating regular maintenance such as landscaping and ad-hoc maintenance such as getting units ready to rent or emergency service like plumbing and HVAC. The management company should provide reporting on all of these activities. Some first time landlords may also ask the management company to handle bookkeeping activities such as paying maintenance invoices or utility bills.

Performance metrics

This is the most critical step! Please be aware! Most property management groups and owners have different goals for the property. What’s best for the Owner is worst for the PM group and the best case scenario for the PM Group is the worst case for the owner. The owner wants long-term stabilized tenant that pays on time. The Property Management Group wants a non-stabilized property that has many turnovers, a lot of call-outs, short-term leases, anything that would create a charge to the owner. I highly recommend you research how the companies get paid.

Many organizations are structured in a way that pays for tenant turnover. Commissions based on signing new leases and fees for getting units ready to rent. So look at the contract metrics carefully to align interests as much as possible.

Cost transparency

What are all the possible fees that a property manager will charge? How about maintenance? Is there incremental margin the property manager adds on top of the normal maintenance service? On the other hand, has the property management organization negotiated discounted maintenance pricing with various provides for its clients? If a company can charge you for miscellaneous fees, they will. If a tenant calls them, you could get charged. If they visit your property, you could get charged. I’ve seen $50 charges for replacing a door knob! Remember, they don’t care if you make money as long as they do.

Are there fees to terminate the contract with the property manager? Or, minimum dollar amounts the property manager enforces? Look for a percentage of gross revenue only. If a unit is vacant the property management company should not get paid on that unit!

Property Management companies can make or break your property. In our experience, we didn’t start making the profits we wanted until we decided to self-manage and put our own managers on-site.

References

Your agent can provide recommendations for property management companies but it is a good idea to ask for and speak with current client references. Some of the questions you might ask are:

-How long have you worked with xyz property management?

- Why did you choose them?

- If you worked with a different company prior, why did you switch?

- What has been the best aspect of working with xyz?

- If you could change anything, what would it be?

- What do you wish you knew prior to signing with xyz?

It’s unlikely you’ll find the perfect scenario but you can be informed about the pros and cons so that you have the right expectations. You can also leverage this information to negotiate contract concessions and understand the financial impact to your business of working with xyz.

Are there any other team members that you've considered adding when buying your first property?