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All Forum Posts by: Jay Hinrichs

Jay Hinrichs has started 325 posts and replied 41524 times.

Post: Detroit Tarrifs is now the time for a rebirth and new look @ this market

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We don't have the labor to make more things in the US. 

We still have about 7.4 million open jobs and vs 7 million unemployed. You can't drive unemployment to zero. Anything under 5% is considered full employment. And we are at 4.1%. So while it sounds great to "bring jobs back" - who is going to do them?

And we also have a qualification problem. A modern auto factory does not require much unskilled labor. Material is moved by automated forklifts, and assembly is either done or assisted by robots to meet TQM standards. Much of what you need are engineers and highly skilled workers. We are already short on both.

I doubt that most of the 40% unemployed men of the inner city of Detroit are a good fit for a modern day manufacturing plant.

The Apple CEO Tim Cook said famously: people think we manufacture in China because labor is cheap. The real reason is they have a vast pool of HIGHLY qualified skilled labor.  Video.

I have spent almost 20 years working for a global manufacturer. For any machine that was produced in our US factory and the components needed to assemble the decision was to either fully automate the process to 24/7 production here in the US - or offshore to MX or CHN, the difference being the response time to change orders (6 months vs 6 weeks) due to geographic distance. MX kept us more flexible.

Here is a picture of the BMW plant in Spartenburg, SC and if you want to see the list of jobs they have it's here https://www.bmwgroup.jobs/us/en/location/location-spartanbur...

Why should we care about Apples phones etc.  If they aren't going to bring opportunity to Americans to buy a house, provide for a family then they are not a priority, if they go broke "thems the breaks".  They can take all the money they are spending sending missiles and weapons all across the world and get the folks in Detroit up to speed for those good jobs Apple has.  Americans don't need more technology, we need some good jobs that can create strong communities, towns, neighborhoods etc.  And if your business doesn't provide that then your business is not a priority.  Am I missing something?


Yes, I think you missed my point. It's not about Apple. The issue is: we have more open jobs than people looking for jobs. In other words: we don't need more jobs. And if we create more jobs, who is going to take them?

And a large portion of the people unemployed today have a qualification problem. Simple manual labor is not a thing anymore. You need automation engineers who can troubleshoot a FANUC 6-axis robot - and not a grunt to do heavy manual labor.

And you are not going to train a 40 year old unskilled laborer to become an engineer. Heck, who would even make the investment to pay for college with only 20 working years left to retirement?

Good jobs to create strong communities" sounds really great, we all want that, I am all for it. But the definition of what a good job looks like has changed. Give it another 3 or 5 years. Machines will be picking your strawberries, because they will do it cheaper, better and also at night.

We can recreate an economy like it was in the 80s with "Good jobs for hard working Americans". Tune back the technology. But the world will move on and the ones who say America is a dying empire will have been right.

People today have a qualification problem because the jobs have been shipped over to asia, and industries like timber has been crushed by regulation with the help of BlackRock etc so they can use cheaper labor and make more money.  Nike, Apple etc use these people in asia like slaves the governments are totally corrupt with no labor or environmental protection, impossible for us to compete with that.  The outsourcing of the nations wealth Wall Street and the corporate outsourcers took a huge cut off the top and sent it overseas.  Thats how I view it and that is why Trump was elected I believe.  If Apple can't make money building their technology or Nike can't build their dumb woke shoes here and make money I'm good with that let them go broke.  It took along time to get our population as fat and ignorant as they are today (God bless them, LOL) there could be alot of pain and time whipping our country back into shape.

ERic  curious on how black rock affected Timber industry.. from my point of view as a log supplier in the  90s .  It was federal govmit  spotted owl and closing off the federal forests. 
whether there is enough stock growing on timber lands in CA OR WA to sustain demand I dont know but there is a heck of a lot of replant been done and that timber is growing.. 

One just needs to fly over BC to understand why so much material comes from their forests its like never ending .. 68k acres just changed hands up on the Olympic penensula for sustainable harvest and carbon off sets.. that one sold for 200 mil. 

Post: Does proximity to a cemetery affect home value?

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Quote from @Ying Tang:

@Jay Hinrichs Thanks Jay! The property itself is sharing boundary with a park, and a there is a stadium (not a big one) 2 minutes away. The distance to the cemetery is about 0.2 miles. But this cemetery is huge from satellite view. What do you think?


who knows your call..  U have good answers .. if your buyers or renters are superstitious on this matter then maybe you have your answer

Post: Detroit Tarrifs is now the time for a rebirth and new look @ this market

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Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:

We don't have the labor to make more things in the US. 

We still have about 7.4 million open jobs and vs 7 million unemployed. You can't drive unemployment to zero. Anything under 5% is considered full employment. And we are at 4.1%. So while it sounds great to "bring jobs back" - who is going to do them?

And we also have a qualification problem. A modern auto factory does not require much unskilled labor. Material is moved by automated forklifts, and assembly is either done or assisted by robots to meet TQM standards. Much of what you need are engineers and highly skilled workers. We are already short on both.

I doubt that most of the 40% unemployed men of the inner city of Detroit are a good fit for a modern day manufacturing plant.

The Apple CEO Tim Cook said famously: people think we manufacture in China because labor is cheap. The real reason is they have a vast pool of HIGHLY qualified skilled labor.  Video.

I have spent almost 20 years working for a global manufacturer. For any machine that was produced in our US factory and the components needed to assemble the decision was to either fully automate the process to 24/7 production here in the US - or offshore to MX or CHN, the difference being the response time to change orders (6 months vs 6 weeks) due to geographic distance. MX kept us more flexible.

Here is a picture of the BMW plant in Spartenburg, SC and if you want to see the list of jobs they have it's here https://www.bmwgroup.jobs/us/en/location/location-spartanbur...


I think back to the auto products of the 70s  detroit was putting out JUNK with the exception of their pick up trucks.. to me that opened the door for japan and their quality vehicles to really take off.. I suspect a lot of BP members are too young to have been buying a car in the 70s.. but it was not uncommon to buy a new buick and within 30 days have 17 things wrong with it.. or like when they tried to convert gas to diesel engines and those things blew up in 10k miles..  To me Detroit in those days fubared themselves.. I know in 79 I bought a brand new turbo diesel MBZ for probably 3X what an american car would have cost but I drove it for 150k miles then gave it to my parents who put another 150k on it.. other than window units and airconditioner tires and brakes we drove that thing for 20 years.  a 79 American made could never do that.  Along with anyone who has owned toyota products etc. 

Yup, you go to Munich literally every taxi is a Mercedes. Because cost/mile over their twice as long lifespan they are cheaper.

California has been trying to build a high-speed train from LA to SF for over 20 years. I just watched a video about how the project struggled against environmental laws and regulation, budget explosions, complete disaster.. we burned so much money and it does not look like it will happen after all.

Meanwhile, China has built 13,000 miles of high-speed trains in the last 15 years. They are super modern, absolutely whisper quiet inside and make travelling very cheap and easy. 

Infrastructure is a catalyst for a thriving economy. 

We start to look like a developing country..


AS a home and subdivision developer for many years  I grew up in it my dad did subdivisions in the 60s.. at least out west regulations have caused prices to sky rocket.  I don't think we want to be as crazy and lose with environmental as China but there has to be some common sense brought back into the equation. Nimbism and environmental laws have caused projects ( at least on the west coast) to take decades to build and prices to sky rocket just like the rail line you mention.  So for this industrial and manufacturing boon to actual take places the states are going to be a huge determining factor. as someone else mentioned the gov of MI being a stumbling block ( I dont know her stance or if its an issue or not).. However I started building homes in Charleston SC 10 years ago and things happened there very fast compared to west coast so you can see why BMW  MBZ and Boeing went there plus right to work pro business minded. Our population is addicted to flying. I have rode the high speed trains in France and if we had those in the US I would take them often its a delightful way to travel. Amtrack not so much not terrible but no comparison. So we fly. :) 

Post: Best Places To Buy Currently - Looking for The 1% Rule ? Good Luck, These Might Be

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Quote from @Drew Sygit:

Thanks for posting @Ken M.!

Investors just need to remember to understand the different Classes of rentals/tenants/contractors/etc. so their expectations are aligned with reality:)


I have operating my business of lending to BRRRR investors in Number 1 through 14. So have some good experience with this list.. # 20 and # 27  and FLA lehigh was a big commercial building and not actually lehigh but ft. meyers.. Lehigh is a poster child of massive inventory and boom bust.. I was buying foreclosures in lehigh in 09 for 20 to 40k a house and they are were brand new never lived in. 

But you could make the same list for most all of rural America east of the Mississippi river . 

Post: Does proximity to a cemetery affect home value?

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Quote from @Harrisen Hagens:

Unless the the house is in the cemetery, probably not much.

The data are pretty inconsistent—some indicate slightly lower values and some indicate slightly higher. My general assumption is that there will be very few people that would just not consider a house near a cemetery but it's a non-sequiter for most.

12% Lower: https://www.adammerrick.com/blog/2020/10/20/the-pros-and-cons-of-buying-a-property-near-a-cemetery

6% Higher: https://www.redfin.com/blog/i-see-dead-people-do-homes-near-cemeteries-sell-well/


or if you actually have the cemetery sharing your lot line and graves literally 50 feet from house.. I have seen that in some higher end stuff in Portland and house probably suffered New build 900k and that was 20 years ago price.  I owned/lived in a condo that had the big cemetery next to me but it was separated by a large valley full of trees and wild life and you could not tell that 500 feet away was a huge cemetery  no influence on value. 

understand the cultural aspects so if your in Cupertino maybe if your in some area were there is a very small Asian population then probably not.

Post: Detroit Tarrifs is now the time for a rebirth and new look @ this market

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Quote from @Isaura Orellana:

Wow, Jay. Saying something upbeat and positive about the possibilities and future of the Detroit market? I’m flabbergasted. You’ve been one of Detroit’s biggest critics on BP since my husband and I began turning water into wine, building SFRs and MFRs in Detroit six years ago, and I started dabbling on the platform.

First off, the rebirth of Detroit began around 2008–2009. Not sure how you missed the memo on that one. But it would indeed be epic and huge for Motor City, or “Comeback City,” as we like to call it.

And yes, Trump’s tariffs could absolutely turbocharge the Detroit auto industry and breathe new life into the city’s historic factories. Trump says a lot and does a lot, but advocating to bring back the auto industry to Detroit has consistently been one of his top 10 to 20 priorities since he came down that escalator. One might even argue it was a campaign promise during the last election cycle.

Let’s not forget Trump’s Treasury Secretary, who helped orchestrate the tariffs, is widely regarded as one of the most highly respected macro hedge fund managers in the world.

Not only are interest rates projected to drop significantly, but due to those same tariffs and broader economic policy, he’s already maneuvered $3 to $5 trillion in investment commitments that have flowed into the U.S. since taking office—yes, trillion.

Manufacturing, clean energy, AI, and infrastructure are now attracting global capital, with Detroit back on the map as a high-growth hub.

Additionally, Detroit was recently named the number one most undervalued housing market in the U.S., followed by Cleveland, St. Louis, Philadelphia, and Oklahoma City. The Big D also ranked second in the nation for average home price increases since the pandemic. The stage is set.

Winter is just now wrapping up here. It’s been long and cold, but we Michiganders (or Michiganians) weren’t phased. Life went on, and the building never stopped. Construction remained strong and steady, as usual.

As for whether we can get the factories up and running in a reasonable timeframe, sure, Gretchen may kick and scream and be a minor obstacle at first, but she’d be writing herself a one-way ticket out of Michigan if she didn’t fully embrace an opportunity of this magnitude for the strong-spirited people of Detroit and Michigan.

And honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if Trump’s close friend Elon, or other major players, started expediting the development of one or more facilities in Detroit, similar to what was done in Texas. I mean, it’s just common sense.

When it comes to smart purchasing near strong school districts, hospital access, and proximity to revitalized areas, Detroit is full of promising zones. Look at the fringes of so many historic districts: Dexter-Linwood with its massive revitalization in 48206 and 48238. Not to mention 48204 off Grand River, 48227 off Greenfield, Indian Village, 48224 in Morningside and East English. Not to mention Hamtramck, Dearborn, Dearborn Heights, Birmingham, Farmington Hills, Clinton Township and the list goes on.

Deals, deals, and more deals are happening throughout Detroit and Metro Detroit.

Detroit is BRRRR heaven.


 I'm not sure that's entirely fair 😜 I think what Jay has advocated against more than anything is the newbie with no job, no money and no experience that wants to parachute into Detroit and walk away Scrooge McDuck. When you have houses being advertised for a dollar it encourages that kind of thing.


One last comment on Detroit.  Not sure how many were investing there in 2002.  I was. I was lending to west coast turn key operators. the OOS  sales we see today basically started in Detroit about that time. LA promoters teaming up with PM and rehabbers in Detroit.. I lent the money to the LA based investor to buy their BRRRR in Detroit did this for many years and many hundreds of loans.. Travelled there at least 2 to 3 times a year even drug my banker with me one time as I was using my Guidance line for funding these. 

that all said. The prices folks were buying these rentals for or getting refi apprasials for were avearging 120 to 150k per house.. probably right about were they maybe today.. 

the market in a well documented crash in 07 08 and it started getting weak in 06 actually. These same houses went down to 10 to 40k.. So yes there is appreciation today but it started from 08 to 2010 at very low values that were 50% or greater lower than what they were in 2002.. So they are just getting back up to historic pricing.. So this is a case were timing the market was necessary for success. 

Also I ended up with a handful of these as a landlord ( failed investors ) And had horrid experience on two of them it was so bad I let them go to tax's and just took the loss. 

So for me I am pleased to see it come back.. But I encourage BP members considering the market to chose location wisely and Schools tend to be a very good gate keeper for holding values safe and reliable tenants etc etc.

Post: Detroit Tarrifs is now the time for a rebirth and new look @ this market

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Quote from @Isaura Orellana:

Wow, Jay. Saying something upbeat and positive about the possibilities and future of the Detroit market? I’m flabbergasted. You’ve been one of Detroit’s biggest critics on BP since my husband and I began turning water into wine, building SFRs and MFRs in Detroit six years ago, and I started dabbling on the platform.

First off, the rebirth of Detroit began around 2008–2009. Not sure how you missed the memo on that one. But it would indeed be epic and huge for Motor City, or “Comeback City,” as we like to call it.

And yes, Trump’s tariffs could absolutely turbocharge the Detroit auto industry and breathe new life into the city’s historic factories. Trump says a lot and does a lot, but advocating to bring back the auto industry to Detroit has consistently been one of his top 10 to 20 priorities since he came down that escalator. One might even argue it was a campaign promise during the last election cycle.

Let’s not forget Trump’s Treasury Secretary, who helped orchestrate the tariffs, is widely regarded as one of the most highly respected macro hedge fund managers in the world.

Not only are interest rates projected to drop significantly, but due to those same tariffs and broader economic policy, he’s already maneuvered $3 to $5 trillion in investment commitments that have flowed into the U.S. since taking office—yes, trillion.

Manufacturing, clean energy, AI, and infrastructure are now attracting global capital, with Detroit back on the map as a high-growth hub.

Additionally, Detroit was recently named the number one most undervalued housing market in the U.S., followed by Cleveland, St. Louis, Philadelphia, and Oklahoma City. The Big D also ranked second in the nation for average home price increases since the pandemic. The stage is set.

Winter is just now wrapping up here. It’s been long and cold, but we Michiganders (or Michiganians) weren’t phased. Life went on, and the building never stopped. Construction remained strong and steady, as usual.

As for whether we can get the factories up and running in a reasonable timeframe, sure, Gretchen may kick and scream and be a minor obstacle at first, but she’d be writing herself a one-way ticket out of Michigan if she didn’t fully embrace an opportunity of this magnitude for the strong-spirited people of Detroit and Michigan.

And honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if Trump’s close friend Elon, or other major players, started expediting the development of one or more facilities in Detroit, similar to what was done in Texas. I mean, it’s just common sense.

When it comes to smart purchasing near strong school districts, hospital access, and proximity to revitalized areas, Detroit is full of promising zones. Look at the fringes of so many historic districts: Dexter-Linwood with its massive revitalization in 48206 and 48238. Not to mention 48204 off Grand River, 48227 off Greenfield, Indian Village, 48224 in Morningside and East English. Not to mention Hamtramck, Dearborn, Dearborn Heights, Birmingham, Farmington Hills, Clinton Township and the list goes on.

Deals, deals, and more deals are happening throughout Detroit and Metro Detroit.

Detroit is BRRRR heaven.


lets set the record straight I warn people about C class which is probably D class and D class in all cities and Detroit has a ton of it and investors tend to not understand the risk .. they just look at their spread sheets and pick the highest returns.. I know there are great areas of every city Detroit included.. My concern with Detroit is the existing man power and their ability to actually get back in the Job market.. 

Post: 7M$+ NPL While sourcing - What would you do?

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Quote from @Bruce Lynn:

Sounds like Boise.  That might not be an easy one.  Who's going to finish the project?  You might not have a big or any choice of contractors.  They're probably mad already at not getting paid on their outstanding invoices.  Might cost you a lot of steak dinners and bottles of Crown Royal to get them back in gear, but it will now cost more than the original quotes I expect.

Good luck and best wishes.


Boise is 12 hour drive from the coast LOL.. kind of like the first time I drove all the way across Texas from LA to NM  holy cow forever . 

Post: Detroit Tarrifs is now the time for a rebirth and new look @ this market

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Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:

We don't have the labor to make more things in the US. 

We still have about 7.4 million open jobs and vs 7 million unemployed. You can't drive unemployment to zero. Anything under 5% is considered full employment. And we are at 4.1%. So while it sounds great to "bring jobs back" - who is going to do them?

And we also have a qualification problem. A modern auto factory does not require much unskilled labor. Material is moved by automated forklifts, and assembly is either done or assisted by robots to meet TQM standards. Much of what you need are engineers and highly skilled workers. We are already short on both.

I doubt that most of the 40% unemployed men of the inner city of Detroit are a good fit for a modern day manufacturing plant.

The Apple CEO Tim Cook said famously: people think we manufacture in China because labor is cheap. The real reason is they have a vast pool of HIGHLY qualified skilled labor.  Video.

I have spent almost 20 years working for a global manufacturer. For any machine that was produced in our US factory and the components needed to assemble the decision was to either fully automate the process to 24/7 production here in the US - or offshore to MX or CHN, the difference being the response time to change orders (6 months vs 6 weeks) due to geographic distance. MX kept us more flexible.

Here is a picture of the BMW plant in Spartenburg, SC and if you want to see the list of jobs they have it's here https://www.bmwgroup.jobs/us/en/location/location-spartanbur...


I think back to the auto products of the 70s  detroit was putting out JUNK with the exception of their pick up trucks.. to me that opened the door for japan and their quality vehicles to really take off.. I suspect a lot of BP members are too young to have been buying a car in the 70s.. but it was not uncommon to buy a new buick and within 30 days have 17 things wrong with it.. or like when they tried to convert gas to diesel engines and those things blew up in 10k miles..  To me Detroit in those days fubared themselves.. I know in 79 I bought a brand new turbo diesel MBZ for probably 3X what an american car would have cost but I drove it for 150k miles then gave it to my parents who put another 150k on it.. other than window units and airconditioner tires and brakes we drove that thing for 20 years.  a 79 American made could never do that.  Along with anyone who has owned toyota products etc. 

Post: Creative Financing 101: Using Business Credit to Fund Your Deals

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Quote from @Kwanza P.:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Virgil Moore:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:

running up credit cards and try to couch these as business loans is very dangerous.


Its just a disaster waiting to happen.. only one making money is the company talking you into it and charging you to do it.. Like Credit repair companies and other shysters like that.


I appreciate your opinion, but I think there’s a misunderstanding about how credit card stacking works and what it offers. First off, no one is comparing credit card stacking to a traditional loan—it’s actually a much more flexible and strategic approach to funding. Credit card stacking leverages business credit lines with 0% interest for a certain period, which can be used to fund projects without the high costs or restrictions that come with traditional loans. It allows you to scale and grow your business while protecting your personal assets.

As for your comment on credit repair companies, there’s a big difference between legitimate credit repair practices and those that prey on people. A reputable credit repair company using Metro 2 compliance and the law to dispute inaccurate items from credit reports is helping people regain financial control and build a stronger credit profile. It’s not about ‘shiesty’ tactics; it’s about giving people the tools and knowledge to use OPM (Other People’s Money) effectively, improving their financial future in the process.

I understand that credit can be a complex subject, but with the right knowledge and strategy, credit card stacking and credit repair are legitimate methods for improving financial flexibility and opportunities. I’d be happy to discuss these topics in more detail if you’d like to learn more.


I am good we can agree to disagree..  my lines of credit are with  commercial banks so they are not reported to fico.. Not easy to get though .  So I understand the client your going after. 

 Can you say more please ? Why don’t the banks report to fico for your lines of credit?


my commercial banks do not report my  spec loans to fico  my unsecured lines of credit to fico my loans on commerical buildings etc.. they are not obiligated to do so.. But that really only matters like for a car loan ( which I always pay cash for cars anyway) or some consumer credit .. The reason being once a bank reviews your tax returns they pick up the loans there.. Plus we have to divulge them on  our personal financial statements annually to not do so would be loan fruad..